Mari Armstrong, Offering You Honesty, Sincerity and Integrity (ArmsLink Realty)

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Praful Thakkar
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Mari Armstrong now this is a breach of trust. Please discuss with the attorney and listing agent to resolve this ASAP.

Feb 24, 2015 12:45 PM
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Roy Kelley
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This could become a major issue. You wonder what else they have removed. I would ask for the replacement of the storm door in no uncertain words.

Feb 24, 2015 09:52 AM
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Cindy Davis
SD Home Source Realty - San Diego, CA

I would think exchanging something like a door would be an issue....

Feb 24, 2015 09:40 AM
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I am sure attorneys were there for your clients.

Feb 18, 2018 07:05 PM
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Mari Armstrong
ArmsLink Realty - Murrells Inlet, SC
Offering You Honesty, Sincerity and Integrity

Update on the storm door issue - My buyer chose to not "make a stink" over the storm door and he closed on the property this past Monday. He's thrilled to be in his new home and I'm opting to let this one go by the wayside since the buyer is happy, which is what we really want. right? Thank you everyone for the encouragement and insight!!

Mar 06, 2015 04:31 AM
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Andy Madrid
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In California, the California Association of Realtors has stated that the method of attachment does not determine whether or not an item is considered a fixture.  I have read comments that say "if you need tools to remove it, it is a fixture" or "if it's screwed in, it is a fixture".  I dont think it is as easy as that, at least not in California.  I would speak to the other agent and have your clients consult an attorney

Feb 25, 2015 03:07 AM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
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Mari Armstrong - Please let us know the outcome of this sticky situation!

Feb 24, 2015 11:41 PM
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Gita Bantwal
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I like Praful's advice. Talk to the agent first and talk to an attorney .

Feb 24, 2015 09:32 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
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It is in North Carolina. Here, if a seller wants to keep a fixture they need to say so in the listing and in a contract.

Feb 24, 2015 08:08 PM
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It sure is the better be putting it back on.  Anything screwed in is a fixture 

Feb 24, 2015 06:48 PM
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Kathleen Luiten
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Yes. Sounds like you have a legal issue now. Hope it all works out for your clients.

Feb 24, 2015 05:03 PM
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In our opinion....without somehow being listed as an "exclusion"....we tell

Sellers to make any substitutions before listing...the door should be put back to the way it was when the offer was writtem. Seek written opinion from your legal dept of your state association and forward to listing agent.

Feb 24, 2015 04:58 PM
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Debbie Laity
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If you have to use tools to remove it...it's a fixture. I hope this turns out OK for your buyers. 

Feb 24, 2015 12:24 PM
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Joan Cox
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In our Colorado contracts, it is pre-printed the storm/screen doors are included.    I too think this will be a problem, hope the listing agent knows how to guide their seller through this, good luck! 

Feb 24, 2015 11:50 AM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
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Unless it was specifically excluded in the listing and specified in the contract, the sellers are causing a problem for themselves by taking the door.  

Unfortunately, the buyer's remedy may be to go to small claims court unless someone can talk some sense into those dumb sellers.

Feb 24, 2015 11:31 AM
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That is wrong. They should replace it immediately either with the same door or an equal or better one. I would be making my calls now to get it rectified by Friday.

Feb 24, 2015 11:19 AM
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Sandra Cannon
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Here it would be.  It's "attached" to the home.  Sounds like you guys need to do a pre-closing walk thru ASAP to make sure nothing else was removed.  Good luck!

Feb 24, 2015 11:08 AM
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Larry Johnston
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The last I heard, if it is fastened down, then it stays.  I would say that was fastened down.

Feb 24, 2015 10:33 AM
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Michael Jacobs
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Hi Mari -- it depends on how the contract in your state reads.   

As Roy Kelley mentioned --- what else was changed?   It certainly appears to be a red flag.

Feb 24, 2015 10:13 AM
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Tough conversations, hope this worked out well.

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Dipti Thakkar
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Yes.

Jul 04, 2018 11:13 PM
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Gabe Sanders
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Yes, this should not have been changed unless it was disclosed.

May 03, 2018 06:25 AM
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Sharon Altier, SFR
Lawton Realty Group, Inc. - Elmhurst, IL
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I would bring it up to the agent, as well as the Buyer's attorney.  Perhaps show them the pic (from MLS?) of what it looked like before, versus now.  Should be equal value.

Mar 02, 2015 05:12 AM
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Mari Armstrong
ArmsLink Realty - Murrells Inlet, SC
Offering You Honesty, Sincerity and Integrity

OK everyone - we did a pre-closing walkthough this afternoon and my buyer was pleasantly surprised. Yes, it's definitely a different full glass storm door and not nearly as nice as the one there when we made our offer but it's a quality door. Otherwise, the home was in excellent condition. Everything was clean and exactly how we hoped. So, my buyer decided to not make an issue of the door, "It's just not worth the hassle".... He just wants his new home. Thank you so much for the input from everyone. I've learned from this experience that I really need to be VERY SPECIFIC on my offers, more than I have been in the past.

Feb 25, 2015 08:27 AM
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Mari Armstrong
ArmsLink Realty - Murrells Inlet, SC
Offering You Honesty, Sincerity and Integrity

We're 48 hours away from closing and we're going over there this afternoon to do a thorough inspection. I did let the listing agent know about the storm door and he said "they've been difficult sellers all along....". Ugg!!

Feb 24, 2015 11:31 PM