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Rainmaker
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
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I totally agree.  Find a different Lender.

Apr 13, 2015 11:58 PM
Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

use a better lender!!!!

Apr 13, 2015 10:00 PM
Rainmaker
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Robert Smith
Preview Properties, PC - http://www.RealEstateMich.com - Brighton, MI
SRES, Search for Homes Brighton-Howell-SE Michigan

An 'on the ball' lender would get everything up front. Yes, they may need an updated pay stub or such just before closing but really, Raoul Loustaunau?  That lender would go on my bad boy list. 

Apr 13, 2015 09:19 PM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Raoul. You have asked the 64,000 question and there in no right answer, it is very frustrating for sure. We work with over 20 lenders, all are the same and no matter how much we complain about it, it seems to fall on deal ears.

Apr 13, 2015 07:51 PM
Rainmaker
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Underwriters from HELL!

Apr 14, 2015 05:13 AM
Rainer
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Ben DeHaven
Haven Realty & Investments - Lakeland, FL
Proudly serving Winter Haven & Lakeland, Florida

You need a better lender!

Apr 13, 2015 11:40 PM
Rainmaker
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Raoul, I've found this to depend on the lender. So I try to work with lenders who do a lot of this work upfront when they pre-approve my clients. So it's rare that I have clients asked for this kind of basic information last minute.

Apr 13, 2015 08:59 PM
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Russ Ravary ~ Metro Detroit Realtor call (248) 310-6239
Real Estate One - Commerce, MI
Michigan homes for sale ~ yesmyrealtor@gmail.com

I just had one ask for a verification of employment past the closing date

Apr 13, 2015 06:47 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

It is frustrating.

Sep 28, 2018 06:49 AM
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Ajay Pandya
e-Merge Real Estate Unlimited - Columbus, OH
Realtor Ajay Pandya

It's the nature of their business.

Apr 17, 2018 10:35 PM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

Barbara nailed this one!

Sep 15, 2017 06:14 AM
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John Meussner
Mortgages in AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, GA, IN, MD, MN, MT, NC, NJ, NV, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI - Fair Oaks, CA
#MortgageMadeEasy Fair Oaks, CA 484-680-4852

Sometimes, it's just a loan officer that's not doing a good job.  Other times, things come up along the way that makes the underwriter request additional info.  Getting as much info up front is the best business practice for sure, but it's hard to anticipate everything.

Apr 14, 2015 12:09 PM
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Melanie Thompson
Mortgage Equity Team - Lynchburg, VA
Registered Mortgage Advisor

It is April 14th. By tomorrow, every borrower in process must have filed either their 1040 or their 4868 (extension on time to file). For years, I've told buyers who are in process every 1Q to give me what they've filed or to not file until after closing. Some borrowers do not listen to this instruction - they file anyway, yet don't give me the 1040 after they've filed. This often occurs when final cash to close is confirmed or the bank statement updated and there's a tax refund hitting their account where we do not have a matching return. We have to source the funds, and that means the borrower has to provide the current 1040 (and sometimes the state return as well if there's a state refund hitting the bank statement). Let us not forget the 4506T verifications are taking longer and data that should be at the IRS is not at the IRS (I've had 2 borrowers in 1Q 2014 who's employers did not report W2/1099 at all or reported W2/1099 different than what they gave the borrower to file - all creating new conditions for additional tax returns). It's a fun time of year for lenders and agents alike. It can be a nightmare is when borrowers do not listen to their lender or agent or both and torpedo themselves without ill intention. Getting a mortgage is a process. Same with finding the right house to buy. We're all partners in helping our clients. If the circumstance you're referring to was anything other than I described above, your lender may not know what's up.

Apr 14, 2015 02:48 AM
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Raoul Loustaunau
EXP REALTY - Phoenix, AZ
urhomefinder.com myvaluetoday.com

I do understand changes because things happen  on a deal , that i can deal with; but their are items and questions that can not be miss or ask for, example if you know your client has had a bk ,divorce ,children get all needed  paperwork regardless if will be need or not that way you have it.ask for the past year taxes if closing after april first you know if  you have experience that the underwrite will ask for them. and so. thanks for your comments you all have great points.

Apr 14, 2015 01:42 AM
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Sharon Miller
RE/MAX Platinum - Crane Hill, AL

Raoul,

Keep in mind that lenders have a "process". While it doesn't make much sense to rank and file customers, realtors and others involved with the outcome, think of the lenders as utilizing a "winnowing" procedure with each applicant. Why ask for an overwhelming amount of paperwork upfront if the applicant has a few irregularities which may disqualify him from receiving a loan? Couple this fact with the number of papershufflers involved in the chain and you have what appears to be a dysfunctional process.......It's simply a game of ping-pong between the load originator and the underwriter! 

 

Apr 13, 2015 11:44 PM
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Spirit Messingham
Tierra Antigua Realty - Tucson, AZ
Third Generation Full-Time Realtor® 520 471-6900

I understand what you are saying Raoul Loustaunau.   However, depends on how you look at it.  Do you write an entire contract and all the paperwork the first time you met clients?  Lenders meet and pre-approved a lot of potential buyers, not all of them buy.  They have steps that they go thru, just like we do.   Here in Arizona we must present a signed pre-qualification form with contract.  This helps in that I can tell buyers that, and getting pre-approved should be one of the first things they should do.  I have never had a client with a signed pre-qualification not obtain a loan, unless there was a death and or lost the job.  Hope this helps, just a different perspective.

Apr 13, 2015 11:28 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Good loan officers provide a check list up front but sometimes underwriters may require more information.

Apr 13, 2015 09:34 PM
Rainmaker
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Raoul, this issue is lender dependent.....and they ALL promise superior service.

You can and should, and if you care for your seller, request to see the VERIFICATION status of the buyer (borrower). You want to see borrower claims have been verified in writing by the lender. 

Now, when a lender posts a question regarding what they can do to earn your business, you have a problem they can solve.....if they actually were sincere in earning your business. 

Realtors want SOLUTIONS, not promises of outstanding service.

Now, you should consider adding this lender to "the list' and make them famous. All of them can invest in the process much earlier. They CHOOSE not to. Hold them accountable.

Apr 13, 2015 09:21 PM