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Stefen Lee Liberti (Rodeo Realty Fine Estates®)

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Rainmaker
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Holleay Parcker - Spinnaker Realty - Serving Clients From Corolla to Hatteras
SPINNAKER REALTY LLC - Kitty Hawk, NC
With 14 Yrs Experience in Outer Banks Real Estate

Perhaps for me this is a little easier. I live on the Outer Banks, and most of our homes are rental properties. When the property management companies set the rental rates, they take into account distance from the beach, whether the property has an ocean or sound view, how many amenities the home has (for those days where you can't go to the beach), whether the property backs up to a main road (impeding quiet enjoyment of the property and decreasing the chances of repeat renters), etc.

I look through a more critical lens than even they do, as I know the value of a home that sits high on the lot, high on the street, where stormwater runs away from the house and down the street. I look at the elevation above sea level, the flood zone, everything is about the avoidance of water penetrating the home for me.

Condition of the exterior is critical, as is curb appeal. We have a unique coastal cottage style here, and it's easy to spot a home that hasn't followed that formula...it sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

May 09, 2015 09:15 PM
Rainmaker
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Suggest to get an appraiser training including a license. Your valuation needs to be very close to appraisal. It takes practice, pratice and practice.

Most realtors' CMA is often off.

 

May 09, 2015 12:16 PM
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Stefen Lee Liberti
Rodeo Realty Fine Estates® - Los Angeles, CA

Thank you all for the helpful feedback. I appreciate your taking the time to offer your thoughts on the matter. 

 

May 09, 2015 09:45 PM
Rainmaker
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Stefen - I have taken classes from appraisers, and even they cannot tell you a specific numerical value for certain things like curb appeal, or busy street. They will tell you that the price needs to be adjusted, but it is on a case-by-case, or home-by-home basis. It seems pretty subjective at times, but all you can do is your best based on the information you research.

May 09, 2015 04:25 PM
Rainmaker
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I do an adjustment for location which would take in all these attributes. I also take away value if there are negative influences.

May 09, 2015 12:18 PM
Rainmaker
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

We go around with appraisers on our riverfront and view properties. There can be many, many 'intangible amenities' that have a value--but what it is, will be in the eye of the beholder. You might review properties that are similar in every way EXCEPT the 'amenity' you're wanting to eyeball . . . then see if the difference is in line with similar properties that DO have it.

May 09, 2015 10:46 AM
Rainmaker
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Cindy Davis
SD Home Source Realty - San Diego, CA

There is a certain degree of subjectivity in doing comps..I like Roy Kelley 's suggestion  and mght just do that.

May 09, 2015 09:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

All of these factors should be carefully considered. Take a few appraisal courses to polish your skills.

May 09, 2015 09:47 AM
Rainmaker
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Those are all case by case. They might add no value, or they might detract from desirability which could affect price. How much is hard to judge.

May 09, 2015 09:29 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

For curb appeal and condition, it would be a value adjustment for the homes condition.

For neighborhood, traffic, schools it would be a reflection and adjustment on the lot value.

May 10, 2015 06:15 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Stefen Lee Liberti Your market will largely determine the adjustments needed in a CMA for your geographical area. Speak with a local appraiser to see how they determine appropriate adjustments when appraising a property.

May 10, 2015 03:59 AM
Rainmaker
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Stefen, you are looking at this from a traditional real estate practice and have confronted the issue of subjectivity. Subjectivity is the pollutant to an accurate CMA and consumes hours and hours and hours of your time.

I would like to invite you to be a beta tester for the CIS Score. This process evaluates curb appeal, condition, market trends, and evaluates them OBJECTIVELY.  If you are willing to invest your time in testing how this works in the LA Market place, I would love to invite you to participate. 

Before you call, have a subject property, the community name, average sold price, Sp/SF, average SF, FOR THE COMMUNITY, and we can give it a try. Let's evaluate a recently sold from the same community. This could give insight to a needed 'adjustment' for the market trend.

May 09, 2015 10:48 PM
Rainmaker
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

Stopped by to see the answers and it is a great question.

May 09, 2015 10:21 PM
Rainmaker
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Only in extreme cases. Normally, we will choose comparables so similar in site that these are not issues to contend with. I do agree with my predecessors, this is really something that a appraiser might consider with the training they have had; otherwise it is a subjective value decided by the buyer.

May 09, 2015 10:03 PM