Jack Lewitz (Exit Strategy Realty)

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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
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We had one we had to fight for.  Our buyers ended up with their money back.

May 31, 2015 11:10 PM
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Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
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One time and it was only $100.00.  I had an agent try to keep my clients one time, but I fought tough and made threats.  They decided to return the money.  It is hard to keep a deposit in California.  

Jun 01, 2015 07:20 AM
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Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

Yes.  It is only fair that the buyer forfeit the earnest money if she defaults on the agreement. The agreement language should cover this situation.

I understand that a buyer can refuse to do this and create delays in the remarketing of the property, but she should understand what she agreed to and should keep her side of the agreement.

The size of the earnest money deposit should be negotiated with this possibility in mind.

Jun 01, 2015 03:08 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West - Carlsbad, CA
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Close, but was able to negotiate a split to the satisfaction of the parties.

May 31, 2015 11:11 PM
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Bob Publicover
Publicover Realty Group, inc - Stuart, FL
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Luckily I have not. That is not a good position for the seller or buyer to be in. Most cases I've heard of are worked out before it gets too involved.

May 31, 2015 11:03 PM
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Ritu Desai 703-625-4949
Samson Properties - Chantilly, VA
Northern Virginia,Washington DC & Maryland Realtor

I had one where they had to let go their EMD and they understood & knew clearly they had to let go their deposit rather than seller coming after them for liquid damages. Fortunately it is very rare we have to face this issue.

May 31, 2015 10:55 PM
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Homes for Sale in Naples, Bonita Springs and Estero, Florida - Naples, FL
Broker/Associate at Premiere Plus Realty

Yes, my buyers divorce was delayed so he lost the $50,000 he put down on a home.

May 31, 2015 10:50 PM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Only from the listing side...

Feb 19, 2018 06:10 AM
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Rose O'Reilly Sievers,CRS,SRES
Carlsbad, CA

No. Ouch, divorce and crazy stuff where people are involved.  We never know until the deal closes.

Jun 01, 2015 04:02 PM
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Keith Whited
RE/MAX Gateway - Alexandria, VA

Had it happen a several times when I was the listing agent. Both times it was because the buyer was honest, fair and ethical and understood that their actions had caused delays and financial injury to my clients. They willingly forfeited their deposit.

In Vrginia is usually a difficult and time consuming process to retain the deposit of a purchaser who will not willingly forfeit.

 

When the situation arisesI always explain to my sellers that according to the terms of  contract it be irnclad that they are legally entitled to retsain a buyers

Jun 01, 2015 02:04 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
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I have had this happen a few times. In one case the buyer knew they wouldn't be getting the money back, and in another case the buyer was very upset. Interesting enough...this happened to the same sellers with two different buyers on the same house. 

Jun 01, 2015 09:19 AM
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Theresa Akin
CORPUS CHRISTI REALTY GROUP - Corpus Christi, TX

Couple years ago I got a call from a buyer I had represented a couple years prior. He defaulted because of a condition of his loan. He needed to straighten a credit issue for the lender to get the loan processed , a utility charge by his wife who refused to pay and he wasn't going to pay it either. It was a couple hundred dollars. He obviously did not get the loan and just would not speak to anyone, return calls, zip communication. He called wanting to know when he could get his earnest money back. He let a couple hundred dollars keep him from going from a delapidated rental to a nice home only a mile from where he worked. 

Jun 01, 2015 09:03 AM
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Sharon Parisi
United Real Estate Dallas - Dallas, TX
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Many years ago,  I represented Sellers who negotiated a contract with a young couple who were getting married.  Three days before closing, the couple's lender informed me that the couple broke up and no longer wanted to purchase the house.  They immediately agreed to forfeit their earnest money.

Jun 01, 2015 08:45 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Yes, I am in that now where the seller signed an extension and the buyer still couldn't close. The seller's agent said that since this took so long they were keeping the EM. We replied that in Oklahoma this requires a sign off by both parties and agetns involved otherwise it is a violation of state law. We would first have to do an interpleader which cost both parties money.

Jun 01, 2015 06:49 AM
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Richard Robibero, e-Pro, ABR, SRS
Panorama R.E. Limited - Toronto, ON
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No I have not. I try to prepare all parties for what's coming and granted, sometimes the unexpected does happen.

Jun 01, 2015 05:44 AM
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Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Yes, I remember once, the buyer backed out and it was several months before he got his earnest money back and recently a buyer who forfeited his earnest money. Invaluable lessons learned from both incidents.

Jun 01, 2015 05:41 AM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Agent Retired

I've been on the sellers side & we refused to return the EM. That was many years ago & the EM was deposited with the state for arbitration.

There was an additional story where the buyers agent forged the sellers signatures to release it & it was caught somehow. I knew the sellers hadn't signed it because they told me they NEVER would. Resold the house but I believe a year had gone by when that stunt was pulled.

Jun 01, 2015 05:35 AM
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Laura Cerrano
Feng Shui Manhattan Long Island - Locust Valley, NY
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Thankfully I don't have to worry about the end of the business too much because I mostly work with people who already own the facility or home.

Jun 01, 2015 05:25 AM
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Lloyd Binen
Certified Realty Services - Saratoga, CA
Silicon Valley Realtor since 1976; 408-373-4411

It's rare, but it happens especially if the buyer has removed all their contingencies and the seller has preformed as agreed.  I had a $500 deposit held in my broker's trust account so long--5 years I think it was--that I had to, by law, escheat the money to the State.  What a hassle.  That was in the early 1980s when brokers had trust accounts for earnest money deposits.  

Jun 01, 2015 05:17 AM
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Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Sure, several times.  However, even when one party wouldn't sign the resease and return of earnest money, we get it done by notice.

It's all covered by the Contract of Sale.

Jun 01, 2015 04:48 AM
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Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

I represented the Seller in a transaction where the Buyer defaulted. My Seller received the earnest money and sold to another Buyer quickly so at least my client was happy. 

Jun 01, 2015 04:41 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Yes, a couple of times.  Never a very pretty situation.  Though, luckily this is something I can leave for the attorneys to argue over.

Jun 01, 2015 04:26 AM
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Vern Eaton
Askov, MN
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no

Jun 01, 2015 03:31 AM
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Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

Yes, it is a part of our business.  Sometimes it is better to forfeit your earnest money then buy into a bigger problem and go forward with the purchase just to keep the earnest money.

I have demanded it for my sellers in some cases and had to convince my buyers at other times that their actions would result in a breach of contract and they are subject to losing their earnest money.

Jun 01, 2015 03:28 AM
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Nancy Hankin
RE/MAX Real Estate Consultants - Palm Springs, CA

Yes, and it was my aunt who lost $10,000 because , against my advice, she signed a NON-REFUNDABLE clause. My husband always said some people had more money than brains, and this was certainly the case here!

Jun 01, 2015 03:12 AM
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Patrick Willard
Rio Rancho, NM

A few times. Once, a few years ago on an REO, my listing, the bank's addendum clearly stated on page one that after 15 days all contingencies are removed and the earnest money becomes non refundable. No one on the buyer's side read it and when they terminated a day before closing they lost their $2500 EM. I got calls threatening to file a complaint from both the lender and buyer's broker. I told them to read the addendum. A couple days later the buyer's agent called me up crying saying his buyer was going to beat him up if he didn't reimburse him his $2500. He said he didn't have it and asked if I would cover it for him so he wouldn't get his a$$ kicked. I told him to stop calling me. Luckily that loser left the business not long after that.

Jun 01, 2015 03:08 AM
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Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
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Yes, twice. Once was when we were a week from closing and the sellers' tenants had moved out. The buyers decided to get a divorce instead of a house. When the buyer complained and I told her she should consider herself lucky that the sellers didn't sue for performance, she went to her attorney - who demanded that I stop harassing her! 

The other time made me disgusted with all concerned. It was the only time I saw the title company demand money for the preliminary when the property was still offered for sale - and the only time I ever saw our attorney's office demand payment for paperwork when the deal fell through. I was sure it was because my buyer was in Hong Kong. He couldn't close because the government refused to give him a visa to come to the U.S. 

Back in those days earnest money here was typically only about $100 - so not worth getting into a court battle about it.

Jun 01, 2015 02:50 AM
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Jeanne Dufort
Coldwell Banker Lake Country - Madison, GA
Madison and Lake Oconee GA

Yes - last month my sellers got $45,000 in earnest money when the buyer found out (on a non-contingent contract) that he would not be able to gather enough funds to close.

Jun 01, 2015 02:32 AM
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Steve Davis
Davis Coastal Properties - Carlsbad, CA
Carlsbad CA

Only 2 in 39 years. The 2nd one was funny. Last day of escrow and I represented the Seller. The Buyer's agent was so upset that she told the Buyer he had to sign the release!  Easy.

Jun 01, 2015 02:20 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Jack Lewitz Mine was a case where the buyer should have gotten back the EMS and the seller refused to sign the release. The seller never did sign it.

Jun 01, 2015 12:13 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Yes. I have had this unfortunate experience. One case actually lead to litigation.

May 31, 2015 11:24 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Yes and usually when the buyer backs out after all contingencies have expired. In one case, the buyer even said, they changed their mind, they then list their deposit

May 31, 2015 11:21 PM