

398,456
I don't think it's a matter of right or wrong.
If an agent agrees to accept the type of lead you describe, they are accepting the terms that go along with it.
It's hard to imagine that a 30-40% fee in addition to the existing split agreement would be worth it to most agents.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
1,625,816
Just another reason I left the big box and opened my own doors.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
1,027,585
It is what it is and an agent has the choice not to take the company generated leads. Since the company is spending the time, money and resources to generate the leads, while the agent is spending 0, I can see the company's point. If an agent does not wish to pay the referral fee, then they should spend their money generating their own business. I do not think there is a right or wrong answer.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
699,177
People can ask what they want. I choose not to participate.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
1,689,954
The generation of leads is very expensive for quality leads. If the agents don't like it; they don't have to accept the leads. It is sometimes better to get $1.00, than no dollars!
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Susan Haughton
Alexandria, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque, NM
5,548,001
I agree with Silvia, if you take the leads, you expect to pay.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
2,131,334
I don't know. I think that if you decide to work for one of these brokers, you are agreeing to their fee structure. And I guess it would be easy to avoid the extra fees by just not accepting these type of leads and generating your own.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
5,959,940
The nice thing about real estate is that if you dont like the way things are being run you can always go onto the next office down the street. Sometimes you need to remind the brokers of this fact.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
3,987,776
My broker does it and I just don't take the leads. I think the fee is too high.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
951,688
Jim - I guess the broker feels that they are paying for the leads and providing the agent the prospects, so they are entitled to more of the commission when the transaction closes.
It seems as though we are seeing many more independent brokers in our area these days, just as Sam Shueh has mentioned.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
3,986,056
I would be gone in a heart beat!!!
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
1,683,406
The big companies take a large chunk of what the agent makes, so I think that compny needs to do something to earn that money, not to see how much more they can get. That's why there are more agents leaving the big companies.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
1,466,057
Jim McCord You have to pay to play. I don't think it is right.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
1,203,864
That depends on the contract. Most agents leave for similar reasons.
Many chose to work for themselves. In Calif we have probably more brokers than salesmen these days.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Chris and Dick Dovorany
Naples, FL
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Sandy Padula & Norm Pa...
, CA
1,709,315
Every broker has a business model and it is up to the agent to decide what model is right for them. An agent w=should always be looking at brokers expenses from the point of view of evaluating the value proposition.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
393,712
That is so corrupt I can't bring myself to comment more. They need to pack their bags and move elsewhere.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Jim McCord
Cincinnati, OH
2,759,687
Good morning Jim. It has nothing to do with right or wron. It is what you agree to when you sign the contract.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,582,481
It is up to you to agree or not when you take that lead. They can charge whatever they want as long as agents are willing to pay.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,442,675
I worked with Prudential when I was brand new and did not know any different. I think since the broker gets half my money (as a new agent) they should provide me with leads and help me develop. It's in THEIR best interest because, AGAIN, they get half the money...
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
2,224,267
If the fees structure is in writing and made clear up front, then it is what it is. The agent has agreed to that fee structure and should accept it.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
175,514
It is their brokerage, to be run however they like. The agents allow it by hanging their license there.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
634,382
I agree with Susan Haughton. No right or wrong, just a decision the agent needs to make.
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Susan Haughton
Alexandria, VA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,391,397
Right? Hmm -- that's an interesting choice of words to use.
When I was new I participated in some of those types of transactions -- not worth the time, effort nor opportunity cost anymore.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
3,407,761
It is greed pure and simple. They already get "THEIR" cut and now want referal fees or what ever fancy new term they use. Banks are starting to do this with REO listings as well
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,724,277
I don't like the practise and fortunately work with a company that does not do this--no split in general (just monthly fees) and no charge for leads.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
67,319
I have a real estate colleague when he refers a buyer or seller he requires 50% referal fee for himself. He thinks his leads should bring him a larger fee.
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
4,799,925
3,071,039
19,929
It's the same when another agent sends me a referral. I have the choice to accept the referral or decline it. I've paid 40% to RELO companies for their referral and it's a choice I made. I like Sharon's comment. Life decisions.
27,808
This business about the broker paying a fortune to generate these leads is ridiculous! The leads are generated mainly from the amount of listings, which are agent generated, not company generated. All listings are on the broker's site. The brokers actually spent more on advertising before the internet because they had to advertise is so many different venues. At that time brokers GAVE leads to their agents. Now, many of them are charging their agents for "company" generated leads... Of course whatever agents agree to with a broker is legal... My question is, do you think it's right? My opinion is it's greed gone insane! Amazes me that anyone works those leads! Thanks for your contribution to the question, whatever your thoughts are!
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There should be a clear differentiation between company-generated and agent-generated business. Taking 30-50% off the top before splitting the residual with the agent is not uncommon. I don't understand why people are up in arms about why brokers do this. How much would an agent have to pay to develop the branding, advertising, marketing, lead capture, CRM, incubation, drip marketing, SEO, etc to obtain their own leads? How much do they have to pay Market Leader or Reply to sell them raw leads ?
1,096,572
Life presents a series of decisions and this is one of those decisions!