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David Barr (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Florida Realty)

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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

It definitely is a violation which is why subscribing to a Code of Ethics and paying for a National Association of REALTORS membership are eons apart in practice.

Aug 11, 2015 01:14 AM
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Fred Cope
Reliant Realty in Nashville, TN - Nashville, TN
Looking For Homes With A Smile

David, they say things come in threes, so it may not be over.  For REALTORS® to gain respect as Professionals, we must self-police things.  If agent #2 is a newbie, I would cut some slack and tell him what he is doing wrong and the consequences of his action.  As for #1, do you smell a shyster or a moron?  In either case, the Commission needs to know, and especially IF there are others doing the same.  I tend to give someone the benefit of the doubt, unless they come across as though they do not see the rules as pertaining to them.  An affiliate may do well to discuss such matters with their Broker and follow his lead.  Two years ago I was on property for a scheduled showing of a listing, when two women followed us into the house.  When I questioned their being there, one said she was a REALTOR®, and lived up the street, so I reluctantly allowed them to continue.  I advised my clients to hold communication in check until we were alone.

 

It turned out that the REALTOR® was in fact the listing agent and did live up the street.  When I learned that, I sent her an email, calling her hand on that.  I told her that I was considering making a call to HomePath® and TRECC.  I didn't, but I should have.  Another agent told me the same thing happened to her, and it sounded like the same person.

Aug 10, 2015 11:47 PM
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Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

YES! It is a violation and I would not hesitate to report it.

Aug 10, 2015 11:09 PM
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Damon Botticelli
Silver State Realty & Investments - Las Vegas, NV
Realtor - Las Vegas Real Estate

I'm not sure either of those scenarios require disclosing their Realtor status.  Which standard of practice has been violated?  Closest I'm aware of is below but refers specifically to "Realtors acting as buyer or tenant representatives."

 Standard of Practice 16-10

Realtors®, acting as buyer or tenant representatives or brokers, shall disclose that relationship to the seller/landlord’s representative or broker at first contact and shall provide written confirmation of that disclosure to the seller/landlord’s representative or broker not later than execution of a purchase agreement or lease. (Amended 1/04)

 

Aug 11, 2015 01:13 PM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

It's happened to me too.   It's a crazy world and a crazy business.

Aug 11, 2015 10:15 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Yes, absolutely a violation.  Should be reported to their broker.

Aug 11, 2015 04:00 AM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

I can understand why someone would not disclose...

I once was in the market for a vacation home in another city, and the minute that I disclosed that I was licensed and buying for myself , no one wanted to work with me.  I even made it clear that I was not looking for a referral fee and would pay them commission on a FSBO.  I was treated like an outsider trying to steal something.

If you don't believe that just read AR and how agent are so territorial that they don't want to co-op, show or help any agent from out of the area.  If agents had a better attitude for "outsiders" they might get the truth sooner.

Eve

Aug 11, 2015 02:38 AM
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S. Leanne Paynter ☼ Broward County, FL
United Realty Group, Inc. - Davie, FL
Davie, Plantation, Cooper City & Weston Specialist

That's a bit surprising that they would not disclose that information upfront.  I know they have to if they have an ownership intereste in a property or if they are placing an offer on a property.

Aug 11, 2015 01:17 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Where they REALTORS or not.  Much of our State is not.   Agents who are not REALTORS are not bound by our COE.  Either way, I can't imagine people thinking you would want to work with someone who used deceiving techniques.  

Aug 11, 2015 12:29 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

We should disclose all the time.

Aug 11, 2015 12:02 AM