Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker (Ward County Notary Services)

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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

Hi Bob... I've not ever sent such a formal letter. If I believe a home is overpriced, I state my case in this regard with backup in my first offer. I might at some point counter as final and best but without further discussion as to why.

Jan 19, 2016 07:24 PM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

No, I think it would be in poor taste and unproductive. Take the time and energy to find another property and go about your life. Piece & Love.

Jan 19, 2016 12:06 PM
Marco Giancola
Beachfront Realty - Miami Beach, FL
Realtor (305)608-1922, Miami Beach Florida

I have seen the letter writing before but it was to kiss "up" to not off. And no I would not encourage the negative.

Jan 19, 2016 07:28 PM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy


No we have not.  A

Jan 19, 2016 01:10 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning Bob. I have never heard the term, "kiss off" letter before.

Jan 19, 2016 04:46 PM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I wrote different kinds. I hope, this letter will work in your situation. Good luck! 

Jan 19, 2016 04:35 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Bob "RealMan" Timm - it surely is a good idea, however, should seller consider the letter? Will that change heart (or mind) of the seller?

May be, the buyers will get lucky!

Jan 19, 2016 02:39 PM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I'll be interested to know their response.  The sellers don't have to be reasonable, but as a listing agent I'd be firing them if they weren't.

Jan 19, 2016 01:25 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

The term, while humorous, sound rather derogatory and perhaps not the intent of the actual letter. I certainly have had byers direct me to tell the seller that this was their last, best, and final offer. Sometimes it works

Jan 19, 2016 01:20 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Bob, this isn't really a kiss off letter. It sounds pretty civil to me and geared to facilitate an agreement.  

Jan 19, 2016 12:06 PM
Michael Thacker - Re/Max Real Estate Center - Louisville
Re/Max Real Estate Center - The Thacker Group - Louisville, KY
Your best friend who just happens to be a Realtor

I don't like the term myself, sounds negative.

However I have heard the practice of buyers writing a letter to "sell" their offer to the seller of the home.

Jan 19, 2016 06:52 PM
TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Good Wednesday morning Bob "RealMan" Timm . No I haven't, however, it does sound intriguing.

Jan 19, 2016 05:23 PM
Joan Dickie
Keller Williams Premier Realty - La Crosse, WI
Keller Williams Premier Realty

I like this letter.  I've done it as a seller to a buyer, but I think this is ideal.  I would just hope that the other agent shows it to the seller.

Jan 19, 2016 01:27 PM
Sharon Kowitz
Cary, NC Relocation Specialist ~ Buying or Selling

No, but it's a great term and an idea that I may be using soon! 

Jan 19, 2016 11:33 AM
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC


Jan 19, 2016 11:32 AM
Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

No, but I love the term, 'Kiss Off' letter. Might have add a little humor to next CE class.  Thanks Bob "RealMan" Timm 

Jan 19, 2016 11:29 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Never a "kiss off", but I have written letters to the seller in the past explaining why I am not willing to go any further and why it would be in their best interest to take a second look at their expectations.

Jan 19, 2016 11:03 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

No..never. What goes around comes around. Never burn bridges..very unproductive!

Jan 19, 2016 09:23 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

As a listing agent receiving it, it would not help but may even hurt your cause more than help. Making a good offer is more productive than a low price and letter why they are offering so low

Jan 19, 2016 09:16 PM
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Not likely.  Some deals just aren't meant to be.  

Jan 19, 2016 09:12 PM
Brenda J. Andrew
Professional Realtor in Conroe/Willis, TX

I have not put it together so formally but possibly in an email. I like the directness and this is definitely something to grab their attention and make them think.  You did a great job and if they don't take the offer, then there must be a very good reason, like they are upside down and cannot afford to.  Otherwise, it sounds like they are wasting everyone's time, including their agents.

Jan 19, 2016 08:29 PM
Fred Hafdelin
Weichert Realtors - Mountain Lakes, NJ

I would never threaten to walk away from a deal by criticizing or pointing out pricing mistakes etc. in a letter thats to be shared with another agents Client.  A better approach would be to verbally point out why you think the price is too high and make your Clients final offer with the caveat that although the buyers like the house they still want to move so while the sellers are deciding you will still be showing other homes to your Buyer. That way the door will still be open to the Buyers offer and you can still show other homes to them. I would never flat out close the deal. Sometimes time will make a seller more reasonable and you will receive a call that the buyers offer has beeen accepted or that counter has been favorably modified.

Jan 19, 2016 08:25 PM
Greg Cremia
Shore Realty of the Outer Banks - Nags Head, NC

My wife had the same exact conversation with a listing agent yesterday. Apparently, the bushes are worth $150k.

Jan 19, 2016 08:05 PM
Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
305-607-0709 SIB Realty Condos for Sale and Rent

Wow, never thought about it.

Jul 05, 2019 08:30 PM
Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
HomeSmart - Chandler, AZ
Your Chandler, Ahwatukee, and East Valley Realtor

Bob - Well I thought that letter you provided as an example was very well written, and I certainly wouldn't consider it a kiss-off letter. I have written many similar emails regarding negotiating a proper sales price.

I do include comps to justify the offer price, and let the listing agent know that this will be the final offer.

Jan 21, 2016 05:15 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Bob, would recommend that I prepare the Termination of Contract and Release of Earnest and be done.

Jan 20, 2016 07:18 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Bob "RealMan" Timm I read your letter and I don't see anything wrong with it. Sounds like you are just justifying your clients best and final offer.

Jan 20, 2016 04:46 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I'm more Neanderthal in my approach.  ;)
We just write in black felt pen - REJECTED - across the last counter offer, and inform the other party that they can either sign our last counter offer or we appreciate their efforts but we'll be movin' on . . .

Jan 20, 2016 03:45 AM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I'm not one to go to that amount of effort to try to convince a listing agent or seller that they're high on price.  The know if they are or not.  Interesting take though.  I guess in a rare ocassion I could see something like this working, but it's not my negotiating technique.  Thanks for sharing!

Jan 20, 2016 03:00 AM
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel


Jan 19, 2016 09:09 PM
Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co Notary Services retired RE Broker

Thanks for reminding me of this past post Valeria Mola .  It was fun reading the comments again and I see from my own remarks that it did not work in this case.

Jul 07, 2019 02:24 PM