David Barr (Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Florida Realty)

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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
Sunset Properties, Powered by Movoto - Laguna Niguel, CA

I'd let that faux investor know that we have to break up so he can run another realtor around. 

Mar 19, 2016 04:07 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

It's time to say goodby. Anyone "who knows the market" does not quote Zillow!

Mar 19, 2016 04:26 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

David Barr Next! Charge him a hefty retainer fee. You'll see how serious he is. You won't have to fire him, he'll leave on his own.

Mar 19, 2016 07:19 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Refer him to someone else.  Sometimes people who behave like jerks will straighten up with an agent who will crack the whip!

Mar 19, 2016 05:14 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

David,

How can one improve on Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA 's line, it is so perfect...LOL A

Mar 19, 2016 05:14 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Annette speaks, "When did you purchase your last property?"

Investor, "I've really been looking, working with lots of agents and making offers but my last purchase was 2005."

Annette, "Would you like to know why are are still looking?"

"You're going to tell me I don't offer enough like all the other agents have told me! I will not overpay for a house!"

'I see. Let me look on The List and find an agent more suitable for your situation."

Mar 19, 2016 05:09 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Howard Hanna Real Estate Services - Ontario, NY
Licensed Real Estate Salesperson Greater Rochester

Adios Amigo! 

Amazing how one knows how much was invested by another!

Mar 19, 2016 04:08 AM
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Liz Wallace
Century 21 Sherlock Homes - Rockville Centre, NY
Broker C21 Sherlock Homes, Rockville Centre, LI, N

Fire, he clearly knows more than any trained professional.

Mar 19, 2016 04:06 AM
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Christopher Pagli
William Raveis Legends Realty Group - Tarrytown, NY
"I Stay Open Until You Close"

All red flags, I think you've answered your own question 

Mar 19, 2016 03:56 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

As Donald Trump is famous for: "Your fired"!!

Mar 20, 2016 12:24 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Refer them to a "friend"!! 

Mar 19, 2016 10:55 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

I'd fire him, too. Any client that believes z over me has to go. 

Mar 19, 2016 11:35 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Ditto.  Get real.....

Mar 19, 2016 10:40 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Lend Smart Mortgage, Llc. - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

I wondered where that bastard went to!

Mar 19, 2016 08:49 AM
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Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRS, Broker, Instructor
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Yes. Why even start - he knows it all already. We get phone calls like this and they always seen to add....and we're paying cash. Yadayadayada. Next.

Mar 19, 2016 08:46 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

I don't work with anyone who is concerned about the profit of the seller. Seriously. None.of.their.business.  Being a know it all just makes the pain that much deeper. NEXT! 

Mar 19, 2016 08:16 AM
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DEANNA C. SMITH CERTIFIED MOBILE NOTARY
Certified Mobile Notary Signing Agent - Smith Mountain Lake, VA
Highest Ranked Certified Mobile Notary in Virginia

Just like lenders and loan originators, different clients like different connections.   I can't satisfy everybody ( I can't believe I'm saying that ) no matter how hard I try !

When it is obvious the connection just isn't there; it's time to bow out gracefully  and professionally !   It isn't always easy but it is the best YOU can do for YOUR client, . . . . . and isn't that the goal after all ?

Mar 19, 2016 06:47 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

#WWTD
#YerFired

You can't know more than a real estate broker and quote Zillow at the same time. LOL
I can deal with a-holes -- I just cannot deal with stupid.
PS. If they ever actually buy anything, turn it, make money on it . . . what will they do when some wannabe denies them their gains? STOOOPID

Mar 19, 2016 05:24 AM
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Mitchell J Hall
Compass - Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

I don't do well with so-called "investors" I have buyers that invest in real estate but they're usually doctors or other professionals or business owners with cash to invest but they rely on my advice, expertise and guidance since they're busy at work.

When they call themselves investors with no other occupation, with little funds and are looking to earn a living by investing in real estate that's usually a red flag. They took a course in investing. 

If I can't manage their expectations  ( and they're "know it alls")

I simply say:  "I rather let you go then let you down"

Mar 19, 2016 05:08 AM
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Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I'd politely fire him and give him my competition's info.  

I think you're right to move on.  

Mar 19, 2016 04:56 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

I get so sick of people worrying about how much money other people are earning. Yes, sounds like I would fire the one you describe.

Mar 19, 2016 04:34 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor

At some point if someone isn't willing to listen to reason from a professional you'll only be wasting your time. I'd drop them too.

Mar 19, 2016 04:27 AM
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Ask if he would like to be his own client?

Mar 19, 2016 04:17 AM
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Sybil Campbell
Long and Foster REALTORS® 5234 Monticello Ave Williamsburg, Virginia - Williamsburg, VA
REALTOR® ABR, SFR, SRES Williamsburg, Virginia

It sounds like you will be spinning your wheels. I would probably fire them too.

Mar 19, 2016 03:55 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

Anyone who knows that much does not need me.  

Mar 20, 2016 03:19 AM
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Good morning David. It make sense to fire clients that wastes our time.

Mar 19, 2016 08:17 PM
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Lawrence "Larry" & Sheila Agranoff. Cell: 631-805-4400
The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803 - Plainview, NY
Long Island Home and Condo Specialists

This  doesn't have to be an "investor type". We recently had a seller know-it-all and she wasn't worth our time..We RAN AWAY!

Mar 19, 2016 06:57 PM
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Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

Sounds like they are not experienced real estate investors. Really, quoting Z and T for statistics? I'd give them a verbal cold bath of reality and tell them if they want to believe those sources I'll step aside and let them make the wrong choices with another agent. 

Mar 19, 2016 06:37 PM
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Larry Johnston
Broker, Friends & Neighbors Real Estate and Elkhart County Subdivisions, LLC - Elkhart, IN
Broker,Friends & Neighbors Real Estate, Elkhart,IN

I agree,  I have had the same experience with investors, except for the part about Zillow, because Zillow wasn't around then.  Maybe that's him!!!!

Mar 19, 2016 01:37 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I'd get rid of them too.  Although in all fariness, investors do worry about the bottom line.

Mar 19, 2016 12:50 PM
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Melissa Jackson
Century 21 Alliance Properties - Azle, TX
Helping You Make The Right Move

There are so many investor types in our market.  Sounds like this one is inexperienced and may cause you a lot of wasted time.  

Mar 19, 2016 12:22 PM
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

fire him - you are right to move on and get him out of your car - the annoyance factor alone is enough reason to cut him loose - and then think of the time you are wasting when you could be filling it with someone who wants to buy and respects your opinions

Mar 19, 2016 12:06 PM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR
Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results

Exactly what you are going to do

Mar 19, 2016 10:57 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

Well, does he really know what he's talking about? He's a pretend investor that's out trying to get a start. Send him on his way or put up with him.

When they quote Z, they loose all credibility.

Mar 19, 2016 09:37 AM
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Dianne Goode
Raleigh Cary Realty - Raleigh, NC
Realtor/Broker

If you gut is telling you to fire him, don't overthink it.  Our instincts are often more reliable than our intellect.  

Mar 19, 2016 09:35 AM
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Althea Kippes, Esq.
A.T. Kippes, Real Estate Broker - San Francisco, CA
Serving San Francisco to Silicon Valley!

Next!  Life is too short :)

(I think I know this guy...)

Mar 19, 2016 09:10 AM
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Tony Lewis
RE/MAX of Valencia (Hall of Fame) 30 year Valencia Resident - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Santa Clarita & OC Laguna Nigel

David Barr great call.  We are the professional and if the client won't acknowledge that they best be a seller or a slam dunk buyer.

Mar 19, 2016 08:29 AM
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Michael Scruggs
UTR Texas-Realtors - Houston, TX
ABR, CNE, TAHS

I trust your judgement.

Mar 19, 2016 07:20 AM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Orlando Home Buyers

What I would do is not take him on in the first place, because I would ask him those hard questions first, and his answers would show that he is someone not worthy of my time.

Eve

Mar 19, 2016 06:23 AM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

Interesting, I have one of those and now we are in escrow. It took a bit of negotiating but the buyer is not stupid. It is a good investment. Zillow has it's uses, I find, in that you can point out specific fallacies in their Zestimates. Hang in there! PS. We are already looking for more properties for him.

Mar 19, 2016 04:08 AM
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Abby Stiller
REMAX Realty Group - Cape Coral, FL
Professional Bilingual Realtor (239) 284-8637

Seems like he might be taken too much of your time that you can be investing to other better clients. so maybe it's time for to say: "hasta la vista baby"

Mar 24, 2016 04:36 AM
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Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, GRI,SFR, REALTOR®

Like Trump would say "YOU ARE FIRED"

Mar 21, 2016 04:18 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Depends on how long it takes this investor type to come around and understand your worth!  

Mar 21, 2016 12:28 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Probably a wise choice David, maybe he will listen to the next agent after this firing.

Mar 20, 2016 01:31 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

Sounds like a pretty typical charecter to me... or maybe I've spent too much time with Investment Banker "Masters of the World"...Control him, David!

Mar 20, 2016 07:57 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Some investors can be difficult. I have sold properties to many of them.

Mar 20, 2016 12:58 AM
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Richard L. McKinney P.A.
Atlantic Shores Realty Expertise - Port St Lucie, FL
For Results that MOVE you on the Treasure Coast!

yeah, i'd fire (and have fired many) anyone that is not reasonable.

Mar 19, 2016 11:09 PM
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TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc.
Complete Home Inspections, Inc. - Brentwood, TN
Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029

 Sometimes we need to take two valliums and roll with the flow.

Mar 19, 2016 05:47 PM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

 I think there may have been telltale signs of this and I would Have walked a long time ago 

Mar 19, 2016 04:04 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Did you ask how many investment properties he bought? He sounds like a freshly baked investor after one of those seminars.

Mar 19, 2016 03:37 PM
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Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

I don't know this client well enough David but it sure sounds frustrating.

Mar 19, 2016 01:47 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
Your Dedicated Clarksville TN Real Estate Agent

It sounds like you are at cross purposes and cannot work together. Let him go and move on to someone that you want to work with.

Mar 19, 2016 01:45 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

I hate clients like yours so I should fire him but it could be a pay check I always tell myself.

Mar 19, 2016 08:16 AM