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Sam Shueh, mba, cdpe, reopro, pe (   (408) 425-1601)

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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

The Zestimate is one of the greatest marketing tools created in real estate and starts the talking points. What I like better is using RPR and creating an RVM versus a AVM. This way a local REALTOR® can make the necessary adjustments to create a real value. Added to that are fantastic reports you can generate and it is a part of your NAR dues and a great value to your membership.

Jul 06, 2016 09:57 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I have experimented with many of them, some are laughingly inaccurate, others can be right on.

Jul 06, 2016 12:41 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Definitely not something to make an informed decision about buying or selling. Market value is not simply based on numbers like SF and # of bedrooms

Jul 06, 2016 11:11 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I do it the old fashion way and I am usuall within a couple percent.

Jul 06, 2016 11:00 AM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

My opinion...in a word..inaccurate...in two words..misleading.

Jul 06, 2016 10:57 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Sam Shueh The advice of a neighborhood can never be replaced with technology.

Jul 06, 2016 10:50 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

My mls has an option to choose whether my listings should be syndicated for AVM's... and I always say no.

Jul 06, 2016 10:29 PM
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Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

They can't possibly estimate the condition of the property.

Jul 06, 2016 02:27 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Definitely misleading data.  You have to actually see the home.  A

Jul 06, 2016 01:40 PM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Pretty low.

Jul 06, 2016 01:31 PM
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Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

A person inspection and evaluation of a property is the way to go. 

Jul 06, 2016 01:25 PM
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Raj Taj
RE/MAX - Lake Bluff, IL
Drive By Blessings!

Three words...Sucks Big One.

Jul 06, 2016 12:18 PM
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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Inaccurate! In Texas we are a non-disclosure State they do not have access to our sold prices.

Jul 06, 2016 12:11 PM
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

In a word, bogus.  Thanks for the scoop on sale of Z's home.

Jul 06, 2016 11:31 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Sam, This is great info to present to potential sellers.  And, actually, would make a great blog post.  

Jul 07, 2016 01:26 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I am not a fan of them Sam.  

Jul 07, 2016 12:16 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Let them put their meat in the pot. However, they are not licensed for professional responses. Only licensed professionals are

Jul 06, 2016 11:06 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

I just love it when a new customer tells me their home is worth $$$$ because Z estimate says so.

Ok, yeah right!

Jul 06, 2016 11:04 PM
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Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

I believe they use it as a marketing piece for the company.

Jul 06, 2016 11:02 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I hope buyers do not use it to make an offer on a house.

Jul 06, 2016 10:51 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

In most cases it is off and others way off. Great for entertainment and getting yelled at but not so great on reality. 

Jul 06, 2016 10:48 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Bob Crane sums it up well. Sometimes correct, sometimes not! Not a good summation!

Jul 06, 2016 10:21 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

It's kind of old news but you do have to have a Z response in your arsenal if someone asks.

According to Z they can be 30% & 'it's just a starting point' for conversation.

I have 3 different valuation sites available for use now. Z is no longer new. What the heck our own RPR does the same things.

Jul 06, 2016 10:14 PM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

not much

Jul 06, 2016 10:06 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

In the 'REPORT' of the CIS Score the values of these automated models are included for comparison. (Example in blog)

The issue is what does the real estate professional do when the home owner is presented with a half dozen 'half-baked' numbers suggesting the value of their house?

That is when the men are separated from the boys.

Jul 06, 2016 09:51 PM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

thank you for the information.

Jul 06, 2016 09:35 PM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Some are accurate but many are not.

Jul 06, 2016 08:18 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Well, it is helpful only if the same size, the same condition, the same location. 

Jul 06, 2016 04:14 PM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

I haven't seen an AVM that is accurate all the time but when they are it's a beautiful thing. Under $400K they have a much higher success rate but not one I could rely on for any decision making usage. They need eyes Sam!

Jul 06, 2016 02:32 PM
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FN LN
Toronto, ON

I am not familiar with that product.

Jul 06, 2016 01:11 PM
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Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

great info Sam

Jul 06, 2016 11:28 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

I love it as it starts a conversation about the subject of value, real estate and perception.    Talking is good.  Listening even more so.  

Jul 07, 2016 07:41 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I have not found any computers that can do the job as of yet.

Jul 07, 2016 05:19 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

If they are built right, they are good to get a ballpark.  Z is way off, but other sites I've seen tend to be pretty close to reality and sometimes spot on.  Nothing can compete with a realtor with experience and knowledge and the ability to compare the subject property to the others.

Jul 07, 2016 04:48 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

I use RPR and it is nearly right on the $$ like my manual CMAs

Jul 07, 2016 04:29 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Not a fan of them

Jul 06, 2016 11:37 PM