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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

I trust AVM'S completely - to get it wrong!

Jul 29, 2016 11:48 AM
Rainmaker
4,582,434
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

i love them because they are a great start of a discussion why they are often filled with errors.  

Jul 29, 2016 03:24 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Jerry - my neighbor was going to sell his used car for $7500.  He asked if I could put it on Craigslist.  When I stopped by to get his photos and information from him, he said he was going to ask $12,000.

  "How did you go from $7500 to $12,000" I asked.

  "I found an Automotive Website that tells you what your car is worth.  It said $12,000".

  --- That was 3 or 4 months ago.  The car has not sold.

Jul 29, 2016 02:43 AM
Rainmaker
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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

Not at all.

Jul 29, 2016 02:07 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

I test them whenever I see them, some are fairly close, others not so much.

But then so are some of the agents and appraisers who do this.

Jul 29, 2016 01:20 AM
Rainmaker
1,157,791
FN LN
Toronto, ON

It depends on what they are being used for.

Jul 29, 2016 01:00 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

No. No. No. No. No.  If buyers want to trust them then there are consequences to that. I do not use them on my website either for a home value. 

Jul 29, 2016 12:51 AM
Rainmaker
1,241,879
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

You should not be one one them as a professional.

Jul 29, 2016 12:47 AM
Rainmaker
991,352
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Yes, I trust them as much as I trust:

  • Zilblow to provide accurate infromation
  • Googleyglob to not censor search results or continually offer methods of ranking and then pull the rug out from under those that follow their instructions
  • AOL to not censor the websites they allow their visitors access to
  • And of course as much as I trust politicians!

Any chance you see a measure of sarcasm in my answer?

Jul 29, 2016 12:37 AM
Rainmaker
1,728,256
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

We use RPR and it is most always spot-on the $$

Jul 29, 2016 12:11 AM
Rainmaker
4,434,177
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

no

Jul 29, 2016 12:10 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

I trust them equally as much as any politician who has served more than one term.... that would be ZERO!  

Jul 29, 2016 12:10 AM
Rainmaker
913,568
Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

They are jsut a ballbark, many times they don't factor in condition.

Jul 29, 2016 12:09 AM
Rainmaker
1,466,257
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jerry Newman No, because they do not take into consideration details of the property that could affect the value.

Jul 29, 2016 12:05 AM
Rainmaker
5,240,010
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Oh, "hell no"!

Jul 30, 2016 12:15 AM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Always verify with the best data.

Jul 29, 2016 09:57 PM
Rainmaker
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Only when they match my CMA!!!

Jul 29, 2016 09:53 PM
Rainmaker
634,532
Kathleen Luiten
Resort and Second-Home Specialist - Princeville, HI
Kauai Luxury Ocean Home Sales

No, unless the property is one of nearly identical condos or tract homes with good comps.

Jul 29, 2016 06:49 PM
Rainmaker
4,478,825
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

In God We Trust all others we double check and if you are not a believer than you should double check everything including AVM's Endre

Jul 29, 2016 04:47 PM
Rainmaker
4,319,773
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Jerry Newman - NARRPR has a better model than Zillow - and I have one which is even better than NARRPR...(you got the answer, correct?)

Jul 29, 2016 04:29 PM
Rainmaker
2,375,711
Lise Howe
Keller Williams Capital Properties - Washington, DC
Assoc. Broker in DC, MD, VA and attorney in DC

Don't you love it - the reliance on automatic valuation models over the services of a real estate professional - but we are not trusted. 

Jul 29, 2016 02:18 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,308
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

NO

Jul 29, 2016 01:33 PM
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Vincent Smalls
Client Advocate Realty - Phoenix, AZ
Realtor, USAF Vet Serving the military and Phoenix

I do if they are based on sound algorithms and reveal their sources.

Jul 29, 2016 12:56 PM
Rainmaker
2,224,473
Debbie Laity
Cedaredge Land Company - Cedaredge, CO
Your Real Estate Resource for Delta County, CO

No I don't trust them. There are too variables that need to be considered, and any buyer using them had better know the market and the neighborhoods. 

Jul 29, 2016 11:48 AM
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3,988,013
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

No I do not trust them and once I have had an opportunity to explain to the buyer (my client) they fully understand too.

Jul 29, 2016 11:23 AM
Rainmaker
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Evelyn Johnston
Friends & Neighbors Real Estate - Elkhart, IN
The People You Know, Like and Trust!

No, they cannot see the inside condition or neighboring conditions.

Jul 29, 2016 10:25 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Trust them? Heck no. It's interesting to see how very different they can be. I always check them out on listings and properties of interedt to buyer since I know THEY will be looking. AVM's are a great for inspiring education

Jul 29, 2016 05:30 AM
Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

no, I don't trust them..... I trust us....

Jul 29, 2016 04:19 AM
Rainmaker
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

No.  They can be a good starting point and I've seen some that agree with my comps 85% of the time, but when they're wrong... THEY ARE WAY WRONG!

Jul 29, 2016 03:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I trust them to be totally untrustworthy!

Jul 29, 2016 03:29 AM
Rainmaker
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Jerry,

I don't trust them. A

Jul 29, 2016 03:14 AM
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Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Fred, when will they ever learn? Excellent example as to why those AVMs can't be trusted. I wonder what he'll end up getting when he sells it?

Jul 29, 2016 03:06 AM