John Meussner, #MortgageMadeEasy Walnut Creek, CA 484-680-4852 (Mason-McDuffie Mortgage, Conventional Loans, Jumbo Loans, FHA, 203(k), USDA, VA,)

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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Hi John -- congratulations, I think you have asked a question that's never been asked previously.   

Alex, I'll take Obscure Questions for $1000 please.

Dec 27, 2016 11:20 PM
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Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA
PREA Realty - Laguna Niguel, CA

No one would care about your fingerprints if they weren't getting paid to fingerprint you. 

Dec 27, 2016 06:02 PM
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Jerry Lucas
ABC Legal Docs LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Mobile Notary Colorado Springs, CO Notary Training

I take a thumbprint of my customers in my notary journal for fraud protection. It is recommended by our Secretary of State and I recommend it to my notary training students.

Fingerprints don't normally change except for deep burns, cuts, chemical damage (cleaning people), some chemotherapy, or constant abrasion. Some occupations may wear out fingerprints, such as bricklayers, tile layers, piano players, typists, transcriptionists.

Abrasion damage often repairs itself over time when the cause is removed.

Some people are born with a genetic disorder.

Skin becomes less elastic as we age, so senior citizens do not have as pronounced ridges and are more difficult to fingerprint.

Once you type your way to one trillion points on ActiveRain, your fingerprints may be worn off. 

Dec 27, 2016 06:00 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, ePRO, CRS, RCS-D
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
& Host of Postcards From Success Podcast

Once per year I'm required by Q to meet with M and have them altered to retain my 007 status: licensed to chill  in America's Finest City!

Dec 27, 2016 07:34 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

We only fingerprint once; however, we must have a background check every 2 years.

Dec 28, 2016 05:13 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor

Is this a trick question? I thought your fingerprints were forever unless you "wiped" them with acid.

When I was a corporate officer of a Fortune 500 grocery retailing chain, I was regularly fingerprinted as the company's treasurer.... each time we had to get a new license to sell liquor in our stores. 

Dec 28, 2016 04:19 AM
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Diana Zaccaro
Tropical Beachside brokered by eXp - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

It's partly to generate another income stream and partly CYA background check. I have been fingerprinted probably 1/2 dozen times, some done the old fashioned way on paper and then done a second time using the digital method. It's required for many licenses here and a surprising number of volunteer positions also.

 

Dec 27, 2016 08:14 PM
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Eileen Burns
Trans State Commercial RE Ft. Lauderdale/Miami/Palm Beach - Fort Lauderdale, FL
FL Probate Agent, Hotel & Land Specialist

Never changes. .source of revenue. ..theft identity

Dec 27, 2016 07:03 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Um, AFAIK never - it's probably another case of one dept not talking to another - probably an Obama thing

Dec 28, 2016 05:33 AM
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Bob Betel
Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc. - Sweetwater, TN
President, Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc

I asked the State of Illinois why I needed to get fingerprinted again. The told me "We threw the last ones out. We don't keep them" I could't believe my ears!!! My fingerprints are private and I don't expect the state to treat them this carelessly. Total Irresponsible!

Dec 28, 2016 04:03 AM
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Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

I wonder if it impacts your credit, LOL.

Dec 27, 2016 10:57 PM
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Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

I can't imagine one's fingerprints changing either, John Meussner, unless if someone had a serious 4th degree burn, which would damage the skin, for example.  Are you having to go through more than one Background Check for each state, that would also require more than one set of fingerprints, on a yearly basis?  I have not heard of this, so I will read replies below!   

Dec 27, 2016 09:09 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I was fingerprinted once - at the time I completed my real estate course.  I have never been asked to do it again.

Dec 27, 2016 08:35 PM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Not as much as they use to when I was a full time bricklayer. I assume they just want to protect themselves by saying they did background checks. After that, i doubt anyone cares about your fingerprints.

Dec 27, 2016 07:50 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

Never unless you have trauma to the fingertips - sometimes even with those defects, analysts can get a match.  No need to have 10 done - that's a bit ridiculous, Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA!  They need to have a single (main) database!  

 

Dec 27, 2016 07:06 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Strange question.

Dec 27, 2016 06:39 PM
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Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

I've never been fingerprinted ever and hope I never will!

Dec 27, 2016 06:37 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I can't see what that's necessary but there is probably some rule somewhere about updating. Just be sure you send the right fingerprints! LOL

Dec 27, 2016 05:52 PM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I have been fingerprinted 2x. Salesperson's license. Broker's license. Period.

10x/year? That's superweird!

Dec 27, 2016 05:36 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

NEVER...unless you damage the surface of the finger

Dec 27, 2016 05:35 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Sounds like overkill to me.

Dec 27, 2016 05:04 PM
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Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

They never change. I think it's not so much having them taken, but what you've been up to and traced back to your fingerprints.

Dec 27, 2016 04:57 PM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Not sure...

Dec 28, 2016 01:20 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

John,

I don't think they change, unless you dip your hands in hydrocloric acid!  I think Jill Murty, Realtor - Orange County, CA has a valid point...$$$A

Dec 28, 2016 11:21 AM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

I'm not a fan of fingerprinting and only remember giving mine up once to the airline I used to work for - and that was with a huge argument about it.

Dec 28, 2016 10:53 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Twice.

1st when applying to be foster parents.

2nd when applying for my license.

They wanted my fingerprints when I considered helping the local school, and I walked away satisfied they did not really want what I was willing to provide..

Dec 28, 2016 10:08 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Wow, that is weird that they all want your finger prints.

 

Dec 28, 2016 09:17 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
Marketing Agent for The Todaro Team

I've never been fingerprinted.... hmmmm.... 

Dec 28, 2016 08:56 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I had no idea thy require fingerpints.

Dec 28, 2016 07:05 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

It's a source of liveliehood for some. Surprisingly, only the FBI keeps them on file forever!

Dec 28, 2016 07:01 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Geneva Financial, Llc. - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

This depends on how many banks I rob in a day

Dec 28, 2016 06:59 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia
RentVest - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

mine have not changed

Dec 28, 2016 06:55 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Dec 28, 2016 06:49 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

John Meussner They haven't changed. It's easier to fingerprint someone again then to check if they are already on file.

Dec 28, 2016 06:21 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of Manchester NH's Leading Agents

I guess lucky NH does not require that mess

Dec 28, 2016 05:39 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Real Estate

Good point. Seems like duplicate info required along with duplicate charges. I'm sure they just want your money not your prints.

Did you hear about the little girl that ordered a bunch of Christmas gifts on Amazon using her mothers fingerprint while she was napping? Mom had a fingerprint security code & kid just moved her finger while she slept.

Dec 28, 2016 05:34 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty 914-419-0270 (NY), kat@thehousekat.com, (MT) 406-270-3667, more information to be provided shortly - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

I didn't think fingerprints ever changed but as I see from some of the other answers, there are times when they could alter.

I've been finger printed a few times as well, and I wondered why they just didn't look up the finger prints I already had on record "somewhere". The first time was for my TWIC card or merchant marine license. I don't remember which required it. But those should be on file on some national database and usable for other government requirements, i.e., licenses, etc.

Dec 28, 2016 04:04 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

Never?

Dec 28, 2016 02:24 AM
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Paul Antonelli
Antonelli Realty - Saint Cloud, FL
Broker Owner; Antonelli Realty

I dont think they ever change

Dec 28, 2016 01:37 AM
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Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
RE/MAX Northwest. - Tacoma, WA
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My state says every 6 years...

Dec 27, 2016 11:26 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

lol, that is the most vicious scam and useless but profitable money making business. 

Dec 27, 2016 11:15 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
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Never,

And to weed out, or attempt to weed out the bad apples in the industry.

Dec 27, 2016 07:25 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

It is the only system that we have where we all can agree

Dec 27, 2016 05:37 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

In some professions, they actually do change or vanish entirely. 10 times a year is excessive!

Dec 28, 2016 07:01 PM
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Fred Griffin, on leave of absence from ActiveRain
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

     That's crazy!

Dec 28, 2016 05:09 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Most places don't store the fingerprints after a few years (or at all) so they need them again to run a background.  My biggest question is, with all the criminal idiocy I see people doing and getting away with, what good do the checks actually do?

Dec 28, 2016 04:13 PM