Mimi Foster, Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor (FALCON PROPERTY SOLUTIONS )

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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor, ePRO, CRS, RCS-D
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Do you have the key?

I'd either have left the key back in the box or it would be in my pocket, either way, I'd know and would not accept being accused. If I had it I'd return it.

There's no way to truly accuse you if other agents came and went too.

But, it sounds like you took the high road.

Mar 17, 2017 06:07 PM
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Alan May
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I understand that it's a little touchy, since you're writing an offer on the property.... but for the very same reason, the listing agent should be a little more tactful.

If you're confident that you returned the keys (and you have a witness), I would allow the listing agent to figure it out... I would not offer to re-key.

Mar 17, 2017 08:40 PM
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Dorie Dillard CRS GRI ABR
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I'd probably do what you did and take the high road but I would ask if the lockbox showing activity report showed anyone coming in after me.

Mar 17, 2017 07:16 PM
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Candice A. Donofrio
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If you know you put that key back, ask that agent to poll the lockbox and if they refuse, ask the Association to. I agree with Thomas, and usually people that take the offensive like that are the guilty party. I'd hold her feet to the fire for a few minutes before I rekeyed.

Mar 17, 2017 06:14 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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Mimi Foster - if you did not take the keys, you do not need to re-key. Simple. You are too nice for sure.

An offer should go as you'd write otherwise.

Some agents like drama more than anything else! 

Mar 17, 2017 10:39 PM
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Melissa Jackson
Citiwide Alliance Realty - Weatherford, TX
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The lockbox will have a record of agents that entered. Either way, having it rekeyed will be a plus once you make an offer. 

Mar 17, 2017 09:26 PM
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Sharon Altier, SFR
Lawton Realty Group, Inc. - Elmhurst, IL

If the house is on Sentrilock, then the agent should show you the report, to confirm that you were the last one in the home.  If so, somehow you missed putting it back in securely.  Unfortunately, there are agents who go into homes (on Sentrilock) without advising the listing agent.  

If it is on a lockbox, then I'd still push back on the agent and let them know it was secured. It was generous of you to offer to rekey. Hopefully your deal with go through without further turmoil!

 

Mar 17, 2017 08:33 PM
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Kathleen Luiten
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Is there a lockbox report showing you were the last to access the property? If there is I'd do what you are doing even if I'm sure I didn't take it. If not I'd follw Candice A. Donofrio's advice and hold the agent's feet to the fire for a while. 

Mar 17, 2017 08:02 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
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Mimi,

the lockbox report should have who showed after you.  A

Mar 17, 2017 07:52 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
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If it is an electronic box it would be easy to see y=who had the key last.

Mar 17, 2017 07:29 PM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
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Supra and Sentrilock boxes keep tabs on all of the comings & goings of agents. It's a hard thing to argue if you were the last to access the property. That being said I would not accuse anyone of taking a key wthout checking those records first. My guess is that you were the last known appointment but that extra step was not taken to be absolutely sure.

Mar 17, 2017 06:43 PM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
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In Florida, agents who have a client interested in the property would have stolen the key, just so no one else could show it.

You took a higher road than I could have.

Eve

 

Mar 18, 2017 03:40 AM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
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I respect you for taking the high road, and trying to keep the peace, but from my perspective ... we are bombarded on a daily basis with vendors trying to sell us something to get our hardearned money.  If you and your clients saw you put the key in the box and you made sure it was locked then I would not be "too quick" about getting the house re-keyed.  Hoping they have the Supralock (electronic lockbox) and you could ask them to prove that you were the last to use it and enter or exit the house.  I totally understand the high road ... but we are not doormats.  You are of so much higher value than that.  Hope you are able to work this out and the Listing Agent is able to see clear to seek for the truth in the matter and not make accusations she cannot prove.

Sorry for the rant  

Mar 17, 2017 10:05 PM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
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Hey, if I didn't do it, I didn't do it. Especially if I witness of a client who wants to make an offer. But I would try to unruffle those feathers. Sometimes agents just get frustrated. I've had listing agents not taking their lockboxes off the property once it sold, and the new buyers swear people have gone into the house. When I checked with the LA, she said she can't imagine who would have gone in--like she couldn't or didn't know how to check that. (Yes, my buyers should have changed the locks per my recommendation but didn't get to it for about a week.)

Mar 17, 2017 09:53 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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Is it an electronic box? There would, of course, be a record of agents who visited and when, includng those after you. I would be as cordial as possible and discuss what I did specifically.

Mar 17, 2017 07:46 PM
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William Feela
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I would be defending myself if I know I didn't have the ey.  They always go inside my pockets.

Mar 17, 2017 07:43 PM
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Fred Griffin, on leave of absence from ActiveRain
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Angry?  And you want to make an offer?  Wow. 

Mar 17, 2017 07:00 PM
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Bob Crane
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Have the agent double check the supra log to see who was there after you.

Mar 17, 2017 06:59 PM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
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You can pull the lockbox report to find out if someone else visited the property after you.  

Mar 17, 2017 06:28 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
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You handled it well, i may not have been so nice. Having a buyer though wanting to make an offer, you have to be nice. Glad they apologized

Mar 18, 2017 05:24 AM
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Michael Jacobs
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Stuff happens and you handled in a very professional manner.  It was nice to hear that the listing agent called you and apologized profusely. Good luck with your offer.  

Mar 18, 2017 04:02 AM
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Kat Palmiotti
Grand Lux Realty, Monroe NY, 914-419-0270, kat@thehousekat.com - Monroe, NY
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I'm glad they found the key. You obviously put your client's needs/desires first and went over and beyond what you needed to do here. And yes, if your offer is a strong one, I bet there are some brownie points floating around!

Mar 18, 2017 03:07 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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If a buyers' agent was bringing me an Offer to one of my listings, I would be the one doing the re-keying!  I would NEVER accuse another agent of taking the key anyway - I would ask the last person to have accessed my lockbox if "perhaps" they had misplaced the key.  

Way to take the high-road, Mimi Foster!  

Mar 17, 2017 10:44 PM
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Diana White-Pettis
Bennett Realty Solutions - Upper Marlboro, MD
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I would also have the lockbox report reviewed and havelock rekeyed to take the high road as you are doing.

Mar 17, 2017 10:07 PM
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Tony Lewis
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The first this I'd do is find out if they have electronic recording of the lock box.  If not I'd tell them to pound sand.  If so, I'd explain that you put the key back and don't know how it dissapeared.  Try to smooth things over and get your clients in the best position to get their offer accepted.  We are in sales and know how to communicate.

Mar 17, 2017 09:20 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
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I was going to say, does the owner have the lockbox code.  I never give the code to the sellers.

Mar 20, 2017 11:56 AM
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Roy Kelley
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Thanks for sharing this story.

Mar 19, 2017 08:48 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
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I'm glad to hear it worked out and hope your offer is accepted!

Mar 19, 2017 07:33 AM
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Troy Erickson AZ Realtor (602) 295-6807
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Mimi - I think I would have done the same as you, and hope that you would get brownie points for that. However, the decision will be based on your clients offer, and what the sellers determine is the best offer for them.

Mar 19, 2017 12:18 AM
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Jeanne Feenick
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Everything counts in a competitive bidding situation - so if eating a little crow by the listing agent/seller works in your favor, the stress of it will be well worth it!!

Mar 18, 2017 10:19 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
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I think you handled it beautifully. Sometimes we are accused of things we know we are not responsible for and the best solution for future relations is to offer up a solution. In your case it was offering to rekey the house. I think it shows you have lots of integrity.

Mar 18, 2017 06:11 PM
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Harry F. D'Elia
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keep moving forward

Mar 18, 2017 03:27 PM
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Sheri Sperry - MCNE®
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Very touchy if you are going to write a contract. Main thing, don't PO the seller! Our clients always come first.  If your clients were done and moving on to another listing....and you knew for a fact you left that key, I would stay the course and say I put that key back. Check elsewhere....

Mar 18, 2017 02:23 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
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Glad there was a "happy" ending.

Mar 18, 2017 01:31 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
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Looks like I am late to the question, but your answer is fabulous - and did your client get the home???

Mar 18, 2017 12:15 PM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
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If I do not have the key ... then I do not have the key.  Period.  Brownie points on the offer you submit ... ???? Do let us know 

Mar 18, 2017 09:52 AM
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Richard Weeks
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After all that, I hope your buyers gets the house.

Mar 18, 2017 08:36 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
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there are no brownie points in real estate....just saying.... 

Mar 18, 2017 08:18 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
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I think your cooperation says everything about your professionalism and the listing agent and seller are sure to remember you.

Mar 18, 2017 08:16 AM
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Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
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Yikes! What stress! You handled it SO well and that agent will remember that. Kudos Mimi!-Kasey

Mar 18, 2017 08:01 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
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The high road may have paid off here! Good luck!

Mar 18, 2017 06:52 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
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Yes you have bonus brownie points for your generous offering  to rekey. You'll get the sale, good luck!

Mar 18, 2017 06:39 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
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It's crystal clear that another agent had to open the LB to discover it wasn't there ! Listing Agent needs to pursue them !

Mar 18, 2017 06:13 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Charlotte, NC
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Stuff happens. Don't know about brownie points. Just put in the best offer you can and do your best.

Mar 18, 2017 05:57 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
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Don't your lockboxes have a reporting feature of who was the last to use the box? Ours does and it's quite helpful

Mar 18, 2017 05:14 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Howard Hanna Real Estate Services - Ontario, NY
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You handled it the way I would have!

Mar 18, 2017 05:13 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
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Real estate agents are QUICK to throw others under the bus.

As you experienced, when you are the victim, it is not pretty.

And EVERYONE in this story will have someone else to blame.

Mar 18, 2017 05:03 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
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I wouldn't expect any special cosnsideration with offer. I would prepare best offer for buyers and see what happens. And missing keys is a part of this business. I wouldn't have offered to rekey any locks. The agent and owner should already have spare keys. Both agent and owner overreacted, but I wouldn't have made a big deal out of it.

Mar 18, 2017 03:53 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
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Good luck.

Mar 17, 2017 09:46 PM
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Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
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You will only know if there was another agent inbetween you and the one who couldn't find it when that unknown agent UPDATES their lockbox card.

Feb 22, 2018 06:15 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
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Wow!  What a story!  You certainly will have something to laugh about when presenting your offer.

Mar 19, 2017 09:33 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
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You can accuse anyone of anything....The playing field? Prove it!

Mar 18, 2017 07:43 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

If the listing agent had used an electronic lockbox, this would not have been an issue.

Mar 18, 2017 05:54 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Tell them to chill out and call me back when they were more composed...

Mar 18, 2017 05:24 AM