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Caroline Gerardo
Licensed in 20 states - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

If I was seller I would tell him to pound salt and email his broker that he let himself inside and allowed or did work without permission or permit. Walk through or no at this late point may not matter. He signed docs and wired funds? Get a licensed contractor to look at the panel and AC unit- perhaps the original inspector will go there tomorrow at 7 AM. Document condition with 30 second videos ( keep short to be able to email). Get name and license of contractor who may have worked for buyer. Email his agent and agent's broker...  "cease doing work without legal permission." DO it in writing and keep the trail. The buyer could have turned off power main? Seller disconnected utility bill? Can't guess what they did without seeing it. Remove lock box until it closes

May 01, 2017 04:36 PM
Rainmaker
8,076,338
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Who gave them permission?  Verify the claims.

May 01, 2017 04:40 PM
Rainer
44,473
shirley cicero
Continental West Realty - Livermore, CO
Northern Colorado Mountain Homes and Vacant Land

I guess I find it amazing that the buyer is an agent and he would do work on a property he does not own yet. Does he think he is about the steps of working through a contract and closing? How would he have gotten access to do this work....Tough beans to him if he didn't follow through on his Home inspections. 

May 01, 2017 03:51 PM
Rainmaker
1,713,576
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

He has no right to do repairs or changes until closing. it is trespassing and illegal work. Time for a broker to broker conversation. As a broker if I knew of this I would be very angry.

May 01, 2017 03:43 PM
Ambassador
2,107,885
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home again, home again...

It's easy enough to determine if the AC & Electric are working or not.

The buyer/agent should not have been allowed to conduct any work prior to closing without permission. If they accessed the house without permission... there could be serious consequences.

May 01, 2017 03:17 PM
Rainmaker
1,600,031
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® CRS,ABR,PSA,RCS-D, ePRO
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
Serving Coastal San Diego, Veteran's & Seniors

Well, many mistakes were made here and unfortunately you made them.

You never let a buyer do work pre-COE.

But the buyer removed contingencies and can't cancel at this point wihout losing his deposit so hang tough and tell him SOL.

 

May 01, 2017 08:23 PM
Rainmaker
146,655
Damon Botticelli
Vegas Real Estate Photography - Las Vegas, NV
Real Estate Photographer

I can't image why the seller would have given permission to the buyer to work on the home prior to close. ...especially after you strongly advised against it, ...right?

Either way, I'd recommend the seller get someone over to at least evaluate the problem. (assuming they just didn't have the power shut off)

May 01, 2017 07:14 PM
Rainmaker
3,416,322
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Did anyone give them permission to even go on the property? Who was watching the property? if vacant i check all my listings at least weekly some twice weekly. When i do find a buyer who goes in and starts something, i do stop them and serve them in writing. Where they are an agent, they know better. A sit down with the buyer and their violations is in order.

May 01, 2017 04:58 PM
Rainmaker
748,359
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

Who gave them permission to do work on a property before closing? If the did not have permission, they are trespassing!

May 01, 2017 04:19 PM
Rainmaker
1,153,799
Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

Who allowed the access? It's trespassing without authorization from the owner. I can't find one positive thing to tell you about this scenario. Best of luck!

May 01, 2017 04:13 PM
Rainmaker
531,376
Joseph Domino 480-390-6011
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Real Estate Made Easy

Wheneever I hear stories like this I just think that to get to this point there had to be a series of mis-steps.

First of all was there an inspection done during the due diligence period? If there was the electricity and AC should have been checked at that time.

Second, once inspections are completed the buyer (agent or not) should not be accessing the property.

There is no requirement to keep a lockbox or key at the property. It is a convienience for showings. Once there is no need, it may make sense to remove it to avoid unathorized access. (I have had to do this in the past).

As others have said, agent or not, they had no right to access the property and perform any unathorized work, What if they had burned the place to the ground?  Contact the agents broker and file a complaint.

Finally, it is quite possible that the local power company may have received a cancellation of service from the seller but may not have the new buyers account information so the power what turned off to the property.  I have seen that happen several times.  So confirm that the power company has not disconnected the service before you panic.

May 01, 2017 03:37 PM
Rainmaker
927,898
Jeff Pearl
Samson Properties / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Buyers agent should have known better. tell him not to touch another effin thing until he owns it. Just try to figure out why it's not working and see if it can be fixed if you want to save deal. Take lockbox off and install combo.

May 01, 2017 03:35 PM
Rainmaker
5,417,563
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Oswego, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

To add to Ron and Alexandria's comment. He took possession by doing unauthorized work prior to closing. If it's broken, it's his problem! Haste is costly!

May 01, 2017 03:14 PM
Rainer
216,960
Sharon Altier
Coldwell Banker Realty - Elmhurst, IL
Luxury Property Specialist, CSC, SFR

Seems like some info missing.  Seller may have turned off utilities.  Seller has to give Buyer approval to enter property.  I would turn this info over to attorneys to battle, since they can fight out the illegal act of the buyer (possibly, if no approval to be on property).  Sounds like Buyer should be hanging on this one, since they have adversely affected the property while trespassing on property?  Seller, at worst, should have earnest money in pocket!

May 01, 2017 07:05 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Sounds like they blew a breaker, tell them to reset the breaker an GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, until after closing.

May 01, 2017 06:59 PM
Rainmaker
2,227,216
Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Did buyer get permission from the seller to enter the property to start doing repairs before closing? 

Was A/C and electricity working before he started doing unauthorized work in the property? 

May 01, 2017 06:27 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Holy smokes - get that lockbox off ther property. What in heavens name was that agent buyer thinking?  That is so far out of line to do what he's doing.  As the broker I would be calling his broker to discuss this situation. Wow.

May 01, 2017 05:53 PM
Rainmaker
3,986,423
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Dangerous for those buyers as if it does not close they may not get their money back

May 01, 2017 04:09 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

No work should have been done before the buyer owned the property - sounds like trepassing to me. Was an inspection done? Maybe time for a broker to broker conversation

May 01, 2017 03:48 PM
Rainmaker
2,239,340
Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Do you have a Pre-Settlement Walk thru form signed by buyer(s) ?????

May 02, 2017 06:41 AM
Rainmaker
1,865,502
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Tell him to grow a pair! He knows exactly what he is doing is wrong. Can't start work before closing for one thing. He's been there doing other work & then decides to check? 

You should not have let him in to do anything prior to close. 

May 02, 2017 05:13 AM
Rainmaker
868,309
Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

YIKES!!!  In my market this is one I'd be handing off to the attorney....

May 02, 2017 04:37 AM
Rainmaker
5,245,637
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Real Estate Broker

What? That buyer, regardless of whether or not he/she was an agent, had no legal right to access the property and do any kind of work prior to closing and funding. I'm assuming your seller did not provide permission. If that's the case, tell that buyer to go pound sand and maybe even file a complaint against them for trespassing.

May 02, 2017 04:34 AM
Rainmaker
5,059,368
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

1. Don't let him access the property unless you are there.

2. Refer to the contract for what recourse either party has.

May 02, 2017 04:20 AM
Rainmaker
4,321,670
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Karen Jones Lewis, MBA, Realtor - some buyers think they own the property once the offer is accepted!

The buyer's agent MUST educate them!

May 01, 2017 10:27 PM
Ambassador
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

ABSOLUTELY what Caroline Gerardo said! He was legally trespassing as were his workers he had there prior to recordation. Unbelievable!  

May 01, 2017 09:34 PM
Rainmaker
3,988,138
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Did he have permission to access the property and start doing work? If not it sounds like trespassing to me and therefore he has more problems than not having electric and cooling. 

May 01, 2017 09:09 PM
Rainmaker
1,257,383
Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

Hey chill out! I will drag my electrical engr or electrician friend to personally test it sending them images of lights all turned on. Ciruit breaker tripped? On A/C may be a blown $2 capacitor? 

 

Two weeks ago, I was confronted with angry tenants that newer Frig shelves broke, brand(new) blinds do not work.  They installed shelves backwards. Blinds have a certain way to pull up or down. I was ready to call 911 as it was confrontational.  Three men do not belong to the lease shouting obscenity at me.

 

May 01, 2017 06:19 PM
Rainmaker
2,826,355
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Fix the electric...then fix this deal

May 01, 2017 06:05 PM
Rainmaker
5,773,924
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Karen,

How did the buyer get permission to start doing work on the property?  I do not understand how this could have happened.  In our practice, all documents had to be signed, title recorded, and check cleared prior to anyone doing any work...A

May 01, 2017 03:11 PM
Rainmaker
1,525,616
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

That is why buyers should never do work on a property before closing!

May 30, 2018 08:54 AM
Rainmaker
1,045,915
Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
Making Realty Dreams a Reality #WeWillGetYouHome

He has no right to do repairs or changes until closing. Unless that was put into the purchase contract Dr. Karen Jones Lewis, Broker 

Apr 01, 2018 04:19 PM
Rainer
177,596
Cheryl Dukes . . . . . Intown Atlanta
Guaranteed Offer for your Home - eXp realty - Atlanta, GA

Has the sale closed? If so, tell buyer tough luck. He should have got an inspection ahead of time.... If the sale hasn't closed, (and now I see that it hasn't funded), is buyer outside of his contingencies? If he is and elects not to close, then seller gets his earnest money. Is the inspection period over? How did the buyer get in to start doing work? Sounds like buyer is in breach of the agreement and Sounds like you are going to have to put your negotiations skill to use to get some things resolved here. Or get your broker and an attorney involved to assist.

May 31, 2017 10:14 AM
Rainmaker
1,291,481
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Let me get this straight ... he let himself into the property without your or your Seller's knowledge prior to his owning the property ... and did work???

I think you start there with any argument or so-called solution ...

Gene

May 31, 2017 07:07 AM
Rainmaker
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Buyer be ware

May 04, 2017 03:04 PM
Rainmaker
5,959,926
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

This buyer/broker was in the wrong.  No work is to be done to a property until they own it.    Get advice from your Broker.

May 04, 2017 08:48 AM
Rainmaker
1,745,352
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

As Roy Kelley wrote!  Wrong in so many ways. Time for a serious ass-whoopin'

May 03, 2017 05:40 AM
Rainer
178,010
Dr. Karen Lewis, Broker 954-2489149
Align Right Realty K1 Group - Fort Lauderdale, FL
No Compromise When it Comes to Our Clients!

The electrician told him that it had something to do with the voltage.  They called the utility company.  So hopefully that's the answer..The deal funded today..It's their house..

May 02, 2017 05:03 PM
Rainmaker
809,308
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

Karen Jones Lewis, MBA, Realtor did it fund and record?  How did it all end up working out? -Kasey

May 02, 2017 04:57 PM
Rainmaker
1,618,024
Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
Investor , Mentor, GRI, Radio, CIPS, REOs, ABR

buyer has no reason to enter property

May 02, 2017 09:58 AM
Rainmaker
1,529,664
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Yowzers!  I'd say the buyer screwed it up and is trying to blame the seller.  I'd prevent further access to the property and have a frank discussion with the agent.

May 02, 2017 09:48 AM
Rainmaker
1,003,818
Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Who allowed the buyer to do work before closing? Tsk Tsk....

May 02, 2017 09:14 AM
Ambassador
3,405,470
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Why was the buyer allowed access to start work before closing?

May 02, 2017 08:14 AM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

The buyer/agent believes their hand is stronger than that of the owner and the owners agent. Offers on real estate not seen by the buyer always comes with this ambush.

Now is the time to banish the buyer/agent from the property. Install box with CBS code.

Make is VERY CLEAR you are seeking buyer number two.

And as @caroline Gerado stated, "go pound salt."

Then have your broker pursue reimbursement for the required repairs.

Then be prepared to make the culprit infamous.

May 02, 2017 07:08 AM
Rainmaker
5,584,078
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

that's what happens with no walk thru... and why is he doing work before closing??  that deal is a mess...

May 02, 2017 07:07 AM
Rainmaker
1,466,257
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Karen Jones Lewis, MBA, Realtor Shame on the buyer. As an agent he/she should have known better.

May 02, 2017 06:38 AM
Rainmaker
602,025
Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

The contract should include an inspection period and a resolution period. If the resolution period has passed, the buyer is out of luck. If it has not passed, resolve it with your seller. Easy, peasy.

May 02, 2017 05:51 AM
Rainmaker
4,800,282
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

If they can't agree, it may need the help of an attorney.

May 02, 2017 05:23 AM
Rainmaker
3,073,909
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Coldwell Banker Realty

Roy Kelley nailed this one!

May 02, 2017 03:53 AM
Rainmaker
536,943
Rose Mary Justice
Synergy Realty Pros - Dandridge, TN
Synergy Realty Pros

Sounds like a fire that needs to be put out.   but who is responsible at this point.  If it worked during inspection, then I assume buyer did something to change that.  Buyer had no business in the home till  walk thru/closing.  Sounds as if someone is in a jam.  

May 01, 2017 08:48 PM
Rainmaker
5,211,249
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

I think Caroline Gerardo covered this one nicely.

May 01, 2017 06:27 PM