Annette  Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041, Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ  (ReMax Realtec Group)

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Candice A. Donofrio
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Seriously, buyer dude? A lame attempt to escape obligation to perform to the contract. It doesn't even really apply unless there is already an item in dispute. So you can just scribble out that little extra verbiage, dolling. But thanks for playing. 3:)

Jun 13, 2017 06:38 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
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(1) When used in a document or letter, without prejudice means that what follows (a) cannot be used as evidence in a court case, (b) cannot be taken as the signatory's last word on the subject matter, and (c) cannot be used as a precedent.

But all that being said, I'd get better explanation from an attorney as to issues in using said wording.

Jun 13, 2017 06:27 AM
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Orlando, FL
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Golly gee...I did not know we had so many attorneys here, practicing without a license.

The correct answer is to present it to the seller or the sellers attorney and let them make a decision.

Eve

 

Jun 13, 2017 08:21 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
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Annette,

It is another manifestation of a world gone amok.  Love Nina Hollander 's answer. A

Jun 13, 2017 07:52 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
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It is a legal clause. I would consult with an attorney for instructions prior to presenting to the sellers. 

Jun 13, 2017 08:47 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
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Nina gave the best explanation of "without prejudice"..... and it has no place on any contract by a buyer!!!

Jun 13, 2017 07:33 AM
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Michael Setunsky
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041 Nina Hollander has the response. I would think that since this is an amendment to the contract, the seller would have to agree to these terms. If I were the seller, I would draw a line through it and initial it.

Jun 13, 2017 06:45 AM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

I would not accept this as a valid signed purchase offer. This buyer thinks he's smarter than the average bear.... so I would advise not to respond to the offer.

Jun 13, 2017 06:44 AM
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Carol Williams
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I'd say it is intended to mean the signature is worthless from a legal point of view.

Jun 13, 2017 06:17 AM
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Bob Crane
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What does it mean...

Time to get a new client, this one has no intention of honoring their contracts.

Jun 13, 2017 05:07 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
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It means I'll destroy that contract without prejudice.  LOL.  Yeah, I've never seen that before, but if Nina Hollander's definition is correct for our states, that would be countered out.

Jun 13, 2017 01:57 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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Nina Hollander has it!!

Jun 13, 2017 09:01 AM
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Teri Pacitto
Compass - Westlake Village, CA
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I agree with many of you that this is trouble and best to get legal advise and rid of that buyer.  

Jun 13, 2017 08:14 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

For many, this would not be an acceptable signature.

Jun 13, 2017 07:31 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
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Doesn't mean anything to me.

Jun 13, 2017 07:10 AM
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Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate
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    Listing agents who present offers with that phrase to their Sellers had better know what it means.  

Jun 13, 2017 06:45 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Sounds like the buyer wants the right to walk! The issue may be if they do who gets the earnest money? Legal counsel suggested for the seller if they want to accept the offer.

Jun 13, 2017 06:38 AM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
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I'd have to ask the context of the deal, not enough info.

Jun 13, 2017 06:13 AM
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Dorie Dillard CRS GRI ABR
Coldwell Banker United Realtors® ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
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Thank you Nina Hollander ..crazy world we live in.

Jun 13, 2017 06:42 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
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wow really,  watch out on this deal.

 

Jun 13, 2017 04:31 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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I never had it. But now I got an idea. Thanks for a question. Is your client somehow related to law field? I'd ask what motivates him/her to add that? I hope, there is a good story behind ( the lame story: online research). 

Jun 13, 2017 11:42 AM
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John Pusa
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041 Many good answers given

Jun 13, 2017 10:48 AM
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Sam Shueh
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If it was me I will not tolerate a buyer who signs that way. Next I get them to sign as-is before presenting the offer to seller and release all contiginencies at the time of submitting an offer. No exceptions.

Jun 13, 2017 09:22 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
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This allows one to visit this again although I am not sure how it applies to a contract. In court, if one loses, the judge may determine whether the case can be filed again or not by saying dismissed with or without prejudice

Jun 13, 2017 06:45 AM
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Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County

On the surface, weird.  I wonder what else is going on....

Jun 13, 2017 06:16 AM
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Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
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Whether we as agents know or don't know the answer is NOT relevant. Unless you are licensed to practice law in the state DON'T. A phrase I use probably more than any other with clients or potential clients is: "I am NOT a lawyer, I don't even play one on TV LOL. Nothing I say should be consider to be LEGAL Advice you should consult a qualified attorney with any legal questions you have."

Dec 24, 2017 07:22 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
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I just love the public when they try to play attorney

Jun 16, 2017 07:19 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
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No idea.

Jun 14, 2017 11:47 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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Presenting the offer 101, chapter 1.

If you receive an offer and it contains something you don't understand.  Present the offer and sugges the client consult with a real estate attorney.  The confirm it with an email.

Jun 14, 2017 06:51 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia III
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good read

Jun 14, 2017 06:14 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
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I would advice the Seller to consult an attorney. Privately, I would suggest they reject it until the phrase were removed.

Jun 14, 2017 05:42 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
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I would need to ask an attorney if this is kosher.

Jun 14, 2017 05:33 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
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LOL - is the buyer an attorney?

Jun 14, 2017 05:29 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Not a fan of Jane Austen??!! 

Jun 14, 2017 04:46 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041 - a habit!

Jun 13, 2017 10:13 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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Ask your local real estate attorney before proceeding with an Offer that has 'without prejudice' following their signature.

Jun 13, 2017 09:24 PM
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Kasey & John Boles
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I haven't seen that on a purchase contract before. -Kasey

Jun 13, 2017 08:01 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
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 I would say that the buyer is not accepting responsibility for his actions so agent beware.

Jun 13, 2017 06:53 PM