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Jon Kolsky, Licensed California Real Estate Broker (Kolsky Realty & Management)

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Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Until the day comes that buyers stop using Zillow to search for homes, I'm placing my listings where the eyes are.  I routinely have buyers calling me with houses not in MLS but on Z (or elsewhere).  I research, educate and we move on.  As far as Zestimates, homes sell for what the market will bear, not for what Z says.  A low Zestimate doesn't force a seller to take less just like a high Zestimate doesn't force a buyer to pay more.  Each of the parties has their financial threshold to make it happen, no matter what that site indicates.

Jul 11, 2017 02:20 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

It doesn't benefit sellers, but they expect to see their property there. It is the issue we have to deal with - we know Zillow is inaccurate, but our clients love it. Our local MLS needs to provide a public site which surpasses Zillow and makes it obsolete.

Jul 11, 2017 11:49 AM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
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      I'm putting a house on the market next week, list price will be $375K.  I have the comps and sales data to justify that number.  The house will sell at that price, possibly higher.

     My Seller is livid that Zillow says the house is worth $317K.  I told Seller not to worry.  I can educate buyers, and any showing Realtor can see from recent sales in the MLS that Zillow's guestimate is wrong.



Jul 11, 2017 01:12 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
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Jon I really don't think it benefits them, that's not what sells them.  But they expect to see their home there and everywhere else.

Jul 11, 2017 01:07 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
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I don't think it benefits them at all - whether the valuations are high or low, it impacts them negatively. However, they WANT their listing on the site for the buyers to see.  It's a damed if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

Jul 11, 2017 01:19 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
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Liken it to small talk Jon. It goes to meaningful talk with a professional

Jul 11, 2017 12:26 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

My sellers want their listings posted on as many sites as possible and then want me to vet out the qualified buyers from the inquiries that come in. I can do that without any problem.

Jul 11, 2017 04:40 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I do not feel it benefits sellers, however good luck convincing them of that!  The problem is they go there, so they expect others to as well.  We need to educate the consumer to move to Realtor.com (that's just my preference since it enforces using a realtor by the URL).

Jul 11, 2017 04:39 PM
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Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
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No 

Jul 11, 2017 04:01 PM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
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I have sellers, and this statement includes most if not all of them, who have been negatively affected. When they realize that my advice to avoid Z was correct, it is too late.

Jul 11, 2017 03:58 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
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I actually know it does.  I've sold several listings in my market this year that were listed without of town agents.  So they weren't in our local MLS and they were NOT on MY website, but my buyers found them on zillow.  I contacted the listing agent, showed and sold them.  I'd say the sellers benefited from zillow... you?

Jul 11, 2017 02:00 PM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

not only does it NOT benefit sellers, but it creates issues for real estate agents...

Jul 11, 2017 01:26 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

It sure does not. I just got asked this today from a fsbo who has not been aboe to sell. It only helps the buyers looking for steals

Jul 11, 2017 01:05 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

No... I have sellers who think their home is worth more than it is because of Zillow and then I have sellers who've called me crying because Zillow said their home was worth less than what I told them it was. I think those AVM's just need to go away on all the real estate portals.

Jul 11, 2017 12:08 PM
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Bonnie Henderson
Keller Williams Realty - Tustin, CA
Orange County Real Estate Sales

I recently searched for the zestimate on my brother's home and it came in hundreds of thousands low...on purpose. They overlayed the bad price to get the viewer to click the disagree button and be routed to a realtor. Deceptive.

Made it seem like the agent had control of the inacurate information they published. And that poor agent paid for that as a lead.  Hmmmm.

Jul 13, 2017 02:38 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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I always check Zillow just to be prepared to hear that information from my client. Such a time waster.

Jul 13, 2017 12:16 AM
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Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
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You put your listings where you can get the most eyes.

Statistics have shown that more eyes land on Zillow when searching for a home, than anyplace else.  Regardless of what I may think of Zillow... consumers are flocking there by the "Z"illions. 

I'm going to make sure my listings are there for them to view.

Jul 12, 2017 08:25 AM
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Harry F. D'Elia III
WEDO Real Estate and Beyond, LLC - Phoenix, AZ
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does it really matter?

Jul 12, 2017 08:01 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Jon,

No matter how much ranting and raving everyone does re Zillow, I agree with Liz and Bill Spear .

Jul 12, 2017 07:27 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

I don't think it's beneficial but there's little we can do about it unless all the REALTORS join together and stop syndicating to outside sources.

Jul 12, 2017 06:46 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

Z needs to go away now thank you

Jul 12, 2017 05:58 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

It gets exposure.  That's a benefit.

Jul 12, 2017 05:35 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Most sellers and likely most consumers have a different take on Zillow than the real estate community.  I think Bill Liz and Bill Spear summed it up well when it comes to "participating" on the website.  

Jul 12, 2017 05:13 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Liz and Bill Spear nailed this one!

Jul 12, 2017 04:35 AM
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Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

In a word NO.....keep notices about a listing we sold last year...it's not "appreciated" 30% !  'Really ?  What kind of service is that to a consumer !

Jul 12, 2017 01:28 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

All AVMs are just predictors of general value so it doesn't bother me. Yes, I think exposure is good for sellers.

Jul 11, 2017 11:29 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Jon Kolsky - and still they want their listings on Zillow....

What can you do?

Jul 11, 2017 10:48 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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All you can do is make sure your listings are accurate when they find their way to Zillow.

Zillow has a very high add budget, the consumers will continue to go there to do their first preview of what is available whether your listings are there or not.

Jul 11, 2017 10:29 PM
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shirley cicero
Continental West Realty - Livermore, CO
Northern Colorado Mountain Homes and Vacant Land

Oh my gosh...this is so frustrating! 

Sellers and buyers both look to Zillow. Why...because it's there and they don't know any better. In knowing that...keep the enemy close....

I will always use zillow estimates, try to educate the buyer or the seller, and show the differences on where the pricing should be and why.

Sometimes an uphill battle...sometimes and ah ha moment...but I've learned if I never take the control from them and let them follow me at their own pace...they eventually get it....or I get a big red bruise in the middle of my forehead from banging it against a cement wall! Either way it's the journey!

Jul 11, 2017 08:13 PM
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Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

No benefit to the sellers but I never had a seller who didn't want their listing to be on Z so I advertise on where the buyers are looking.

Jul 11, 2017 05:58 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

No. I do not. As many others have stated, sellers expect to see their home listed there.  

Jul 11, 2017 04:47 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
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It is the accuracy of the information on your listing that counts!

Jul 11, 2017 04:46 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

NO!!

Jul 11, 2017 04:38 PM
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Leslie Scholfield
HomeSmart - Centennial, CO
Realtor

I can only speak for the Denver Market.  When it comes to a large decision or purchases, Consumers research on their own before they ask a professional.  (financial, legal, marriage advice... why they are sick... whats the best car or vacuum)  People don't  believe everything they read or hear any more.   Zillow and other housing sights on the Internet begin the process of a discussion with Clients. It will never replace the need for the personal touch that is needed in this industry.   Clients are becoming more educated to choose the right Realtor for them.  They are looking for Realtors that know more then they do after they did all of their research. This means that they are choosing a professional Realtor over a friend that just got their license and is going to "give Real Estate a try part time".  I am grateful for this change.

Jul 11, 2017 02:51 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Not a zillow fan with their numbers at all Jon!

Jul 11, 2017 02:42 PM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Jon Kolsky No, they do not benefit sellers. However, they do have consumers believing they do. It just our job harder in having to reeducate them.

Jul 11, 2017 02:01 PM
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sandy straley
Rindlesbach Homes - Salt Lake City, UT
Selling Homes for over 40 Years

It is still another avenue to advertising your listings. . .  let them call you for accurate information . . . . . .

Jul 11, 2017 01:43 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Hmm, from what I have heard coming from the lips of agents and the desk of NAR, 90%+ of all transaction are via rea-la-tors. That means the MLS. Buying and selling is facilitated via information on the MLS while espionage and confusion emanate from the dominion of evil intentions.

By association, many agents have embraced evil intentions and lost faith in their own organization and MLS. Of course the reason is because the agent's organizations have BETRAYED them at every turn.

IT is still the MLS that drives the real estate business for the next year or two at least. Those who are selling the 'freedom of speech' story have embraced an alternative truth. 

Benefits sellers? Of course not. Sellers are being bludgeoned into compliance by the dominate voice in real estate and the parroting of participating agents.

Jul 11, 2017 01:30 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Regardless on how we feel about the Zestimates, the public starts there for their searches.   Denver did not syndicate for quite a while, due to Z not signing a statement that said they would remove listings after UC or Sold.  They finally did.

Jul 14, 2017 08:25 AM