Dave Martin (703) 585-4687, Making Realty Dreams a Reality #WeWillGetYouHome (Fairfax Realty)

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Thomas J. Nelson, Realtor e-Pro, CRS, RCS-D, Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
& Host of Postcards From Success Podcast

If you are not willing to invest in the man in your shoes, no coach will be either.

Buffini & Company is the real deal, been with them 18 years. 

Sep 04, 2017 11:02 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

It goes both ways, they may not want to spend their time on someone who is not committed enough to shell out a few bucks.

At KW, the coaches take a percentage, and they do put out a lot of time and supplies for many agents who never put enough into it to pay off for the coach or themselves.

Sep 04, 2017 07:47 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
Your Dedicated Clarksville TN Real Estate Agent

I see what you are saying and find that true in many cases. There are some that do use and do what they preach. I think Ben Kinney is one of those.

Sep 04, 2017 07:29 PM
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Dave Halpern
Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

 You're looking in the wrong places. 

Sep 04, 2017 07:10 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

I have been to the offices of my real estate coach - The CORE. They implement every single tactic & system that they drill into our heads. It's a bit costly but, worth every penny!

One of the systems that I needed to improve upon was my CRM. I'm now using one that a real estate agent developed and is also using that system in his own business (Brivity - Ben Kinney). 

I wholeheartedly agree with you - those who claim to be gurus rarely ever utilize their own systems, nor are they worth the money they're asking. Good luck!

Sep 04, 2017 06:56 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

David Martin - should I refer your name to Buffini & Company? They teach working by referrals and they do take the referrals seriously!

Sep 04, 2017 09:53 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I agree that there are TOO many RE trainers, coaches, etc. etc. teachers and gurus. My Dad used to say: ''those who can not do~ they become teachers.'' ( famous saying in Russian speaking countries). 

But in general, I believe in the value of having an accountability coach or spiritual guru:) 

Sep 04, 2017 07:11 PM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

These platforms are what you make of them. Learn how to use them and you will generate business, BTW Welcome to AR

Sep 05, 2017 04:58 AM
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

They all know " There's a sucker born every minute". Some coaches offer a cancellation policy if you don't like what they're selling. (Amy Stoehr for example).

Sep 05, 2017 04:55 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor

I have no real horse in this race and am not overly impressed by coaching offerings, but I have been using the Buffini work by referral system for years quite successfully using their self-directed coaching. I find the contingency payment idea intriguing. Of course, they will tell you that unless you have major skin in the game you will fail.

Sep 05, 2017 03:50 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Davud,

What is your point here?  You have your own real estate practice and I am assuming you are doing well.  A

Sep 04, 2017 09:03 PM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

If it truly worked, they'd be millionaires and not pushing their systems on us. As it is, we support them if we subscribe.

Sep 05, 2017 09:47 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Sep 05, 2017 06:13 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Serving Scottsdale, Phoenix and Maricopa County AZ

It will be interesting to see who - if anyone - steps up to the challenge!

Sep 05, 2017 04:43 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg IL Real Estate

Great, that's nice but you've posted this inthe wrong area to get the most eyeballs.

The system works if you do. I think your post is incorrect. Most have worked that system & have proof that it works. You on the other hand, are looking for a 'personalized bullet' for you to use.

Sep 05, 2017 04:30 AM
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Peter Mohylsky
PrimeSouth Properties - Santa Rosa Beach, FL
Let me help you find your path to the beach.

I am not sure your challenge really makes sense.  Most successful business owners have had mentors or coaches helping them towards success.  Everyone who acknowledges they can improve seeks guidance.

Sep 05, 2017 04:23 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Even some of the marginal ones may have one good idea but I don't plan to pay for it.

Sep 05, 2017 04:19 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

As long as you are in this business there will be ample people try to sell you something useful or junk, it is up to you to give them your money or decline.

 

Sep 04, 2017 09:51 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Have attended a few Buffini seminars, and they really do help your business, but you have to apply it!

Sep 07, 2017 02:29 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

 It was important to me to find someone also in the trenches... so I searched out an "accountability partner" and that works for me.

Sep 06, 2017 09:21 PM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Geneva Financial, Llc. - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

Great challenge.

Sep 06, 2017 07:59 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Well there are a few good ones out there

Sep 05, 2017 05:46 PM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Will be interesting who contracts you.

 

Sep 05, 2017 02:25 PM
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Caroline Gerardo
CMG Financial - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

Are you asking a "guru" to give you their secret sauce for free then you will pay them?  Any marketing plan comes with the fact that you the owner have to daily do the duties to make it work no auto generated bot can make deposits into your bank account. Make a plan and repeat and tweak

Sep 05, 2017 12:00 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Many will sign up for coaching and go at it half-assed.  If they worked on an contingency basis, most coaches would be broke.

Sep 05, 2017 09:33 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Franklin, MA
Marketing Agent for The Todaro Team

I'm not sure what the point is here.... any system is as good as the person who uses it.... that could be a method of marketing.... all of them work, if you work them properly....

Sep 05, 2017 07:04 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

I do not worry about the their business practices.

Sep 05, 2017 06:57 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

You have to spend money to make money - they are investing time and effort and they need in return an investment by their clients

Completely understandable

Sep 05, 2017 06:55 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Making money is always an interesting subject all over the world. Everything we do is based on it. Isn't there more to life than this? What is success?

Sep 05, 2017 06:51 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

The old saying was if you can not do, teach. HOWEVER when they can make more money selling tips then selling real estate, how do i get this job

Sep 05, 2017 06:40 AM
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Fred Griffin, on leave of absence from ActiveRain
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

   The only business people who don't require payment up front are Real Estate Practitioners.   Maybe that's why the attrition rate in this business is 80% plus.

Sep 05, 2017 06:32 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Definitely food for thought!

Sep 05, 2017 06:20 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

David Martin Don't hold your breath.

Sep 05, 2017 06:17 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Interesting Challenge 

Sep 05, 2017 06:02 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

To be hones I have not thought of that.

Sep 05, 2017 05:45 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I agree, but the problem is, many taking these courses, coaches, etc. will not follow the advice of the program.

Sep 05, 2017 05:43 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Your reasoning suggests a 'GURU' should have only one business model and only one income stream.

As demonstrated by Active Rain owner Ben Kenney, the business person of vision will develop multiple income sources.

The reality is, THEY ALL WORK, but they don't work for everyone. The variable is the agent.

Of course, as business owners, we possess the authority to negotiate the deal with these vendors that is acceptable to us.  Whether they adjust or not should be no skin off our nose.

Be aware, in many instances, solicitation are received using the exact same resources they are selling. Now that is refreshing to see them actually use their own product.

Sep 05, 2017 05:18 AM