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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
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      When the downtown Tallahassee condos failed to sell during the crash 10 or 12 years ago, the Developer set up a registration desk, got whatever licenses he needed from State and local, and operated it as a hotel.  A number of the people who bought condos and saw prices spiraling downward, also decided to rent their units out, and shared the same front desk. 

     At least one of the downtown condo towers in Tallahassee continues to operate as a condotel.

Oct 15, 2017 06:51 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
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You know I do - I sell hundreds of them LOL

Oct 15, 2017 05:07 PM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Thank for this lesson.

Oct 15, 2017 09:28 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
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It has been a while since I heard that term, I am also licensed in the state of FL and while there, I came across some condotels during the down turn. 

Oct 15, 2017 07:24 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
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Yes, I do know what it is. Can't say I've seen one in my area and have not had to deal with lenders in this regard... but, I suppose there will always be the first time.

Oct 15, 2017 07:12 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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Yeah, it's a cross between a condo and a hotel. Usually the hotel was converted into condo units, and they can be rented out short-term or long-term or used by the owner.

Oct 15, 2017 07:08 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I am familiar and often they are around resort areas like Disney World.

Oct 15, 2017 07:00 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
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It sounds like a cross between condos and hotels, which implies a mixture of short-term and long-term residents.

Oct 15, 2017 06:52 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Peter Mohylsky Worked a deal a while back to put the first one in our area. The buyer's investor didn't come through at the last minute.

Oct 15, 2017 06:50 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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Now I know, Peter.

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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
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We must not have them here in Denver, never heard of them.

Oct 18, 2017 06:27 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
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A former "holiday inn" at Lake Oconee is now a condotel.  I listed and successfully sold one of the units, but it's not something I would want to try to get financed. 

 

Oct 16, 2017 01:58 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I do.  But, we don't have any in my area.

Oct 16, 2017 07:20 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

You bet.

But in my location, these 400 SF hidey holes, have not been the most well received real estate investment. It is certainly a niche and someone has to do it.

Oct 16, 2017 05:48 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Roy Kelley nailed this one!

Oct 16, 2017 04:39 AM
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Bob Crane
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A good way to pay the bills on your vacation home.

Oct 15, 2017 08:43 PM
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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I understand that it is a condo in a high rise building.  The condo is not "fee simple" because the owner of the unit doses not own the land.

Oct 15, 2017 08:15 PM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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motel-motor hotel

condotel-condo in a hotel like environment

Oct 15, 2017 07:13 PM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

Depends what market you are in. They have been building luxury condotels in Waikiki that are stunning. And of course pricey.

Oct 15, 2017 06:54 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I had no idea

Oct 15, 2017 06:53 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
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I do know what it is. Many time share properties operate this way as well to bring in extra income.

Oct 15, 2017 06:31 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I'm guessing condos with high non-owner occupancy.

Oct 15, 2017 04:04 PM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Yes, I know the term but can't say I have had any experience with them in my market.   

Oct 15, 2017 03:31 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Not great investments generally

Oct 15, 2017 12:46 PM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

We have them on our seacoast. They are hard to get mortgages for, mostly local banks and credit unions with 20-30% down though

Oct 15, 2017 11:56 AM
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Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
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If I can limit it to our Daytona Beach market, then I can say that I know quite a bit about condo-hotels. In our area these are mostly old hotels, that at some point in time were converted into condos. Condo is a legal form of ownership. Hotel part here is usage. So, these are condos, which are used (and licensed) as hotels. It is tricky, as they are classified as transient facilities, which limits their residential use. Think about it as owning a room in a hotel, which you can use with limitations for your own vacations, but which otherwise is operated as a hotel.

Oct 15, 2017 10:24 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
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Peter,

We spoke at a condotel conference 9 years ago in Las Vegas.  The only negative we heard there was from some of the developers and marketing firms that did not like real estate agents.   A

Oct 15, 2017 09:18 AM
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Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Some euphemism for a timeshare?

Oct 15, 2017 09:10 AM
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Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
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 Sounds like another word for timeshare

Oct 15, 2017 09:01 AM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
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We represent several of these. It has been difficult to get financing, but we have had success with local lenders willing to provide portfolio loans on them.

Oct 15, 2017 08:46 AM
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Chuck Mixon
The Keyes Company - Cutler Bay, FL
Cutler Bay Specialist, GRI, CDPE, BPOR

I know of at least two condotel in the Miami area, and I am sure there is more.

Oct 15, 2017 08:37 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
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We do have a condo complex that has a hotel in our Uptown but, the hotel units are owned by one entity. The concierge and other services are available to the condo owners though. So, we can't really call that a condotel...yet!

Oct 15, 2017 07:49 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
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Yep I know. I think there are some downtown but not out here in the 'burbs. I think Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL knows a lot about this market

Oct 15, 2017 07:47 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
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Yes, we have friends who own one in Florida, but there are none in my market. 

Oct 15, 2017 07:33 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

we have no experience with this....we're not in that type of market...

Oct 15, 2017 07:33 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
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My guess is a condo hotel ... an investment condo that is rented out on a weekly, monthly basis.

Oct 15, 2017 07:32 AM