Jeff Dowler, CRS, The Southern California Relocation Dude (eXp Realty of California, Inc.)

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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Yes they removed it and no I did not get it back. Were they surprised at the replacement cost which I recovered.

Feb 08, 2018 09:56 AM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

That's a new one. I can't help wonder about the legal implications of this. If the lockbox is attached to a private property, regardless if an HOA or not, that would start with trespassing, then destruction of property, vandalism, theft of property... that calls for a police complaint and investigation into a crime. Charges and possible arrest of the culprit and the accomplices (conspiracy to commit a crime).

Feb 08, 2018 10:03 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

that lockbox would be going up someone's butt sideways..... they have no right to remove it.... they can fine the homeowner until it's removed..... 

Feb 08, 2018 10:25 AM
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Hella M. Rothwell, Broker/Realtor®
Carmel by the Sea, CA
Rothwell Realty Inc. CA#01968433 Carmel-by-the-Sea

I've heard that some agents don't ever take them down so they get removed at some point.

Feb 08, 2018 10:43 AM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

I have not had this experience.

Feb 08, 2018 09:57 AM
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Fred Griffin Tallahassee Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
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     What Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR said.  Criminal trespass, theft.  And how exactly did they remove the box?   Most combos can be picked, but Supra requires bolt-cutters.

Feb 08, 2018 12:49 PM
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Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent
BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE - Mississauga, ON
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I've never heard of this happening and it has not happened to me.  Homeowners should be made awrae of any changes in the by-laws, and in turn the homeowners would let their agent know.

Feb 08, 2018 11:31 AM
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
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No this has never happened to me. I've heard of HOA's removing for sale signs, but never a lock box.

Feb 08, 2018 10:49 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
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No, has not happened. Why not a warning first? Seems kind of drastic to just remove the lockbox; they are not cheap if you don't recover it.

Feb 08, 2018 10:34 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

I have not.  It is common for the management company to call the listing agent with a sign violation demanding the sign be removed.  Lockbox? 

If on the front door ... removing it would be pretty ballsy. If on a front gate or some other place ... not sure about that either.  

Best practice is the check the C&R's, or call / email the management company to find out what is acceptable and what is not. 

Feb 08, 2018 11:57 AM
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Problem with signage but not lockbox. 

Feb 08, 2018 11:49 AM
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Bob Crane
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Time to let these psuedo govt thugs know that they do not have absolute authority, take them to court.

Feb 08, 2018 03:11 PM
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Susie Kay
Ultra Real Estate Dallas Fort Worth - Plano, TX
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I have not had that.  That's no fun!

Feb 08, 2018 02:10 PM
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Susan Jacobsen
The Alliance Group Realty - Hilton Head Island, SC
20 Years Providing WOW Real Estate Service

yes - it was on a condo/villa and no I didn't get it back AND the management company sent a nasty letter to my owner trying to collect a $50 fine. My absentee seller was unaware of the rule and I looked up the covenants online but the management said they had notified the owner and were not responsible to provide the information to me - even though you as an agent must notify them that the property is on the market - $92 down the drain................errrgghhh

Feb 08, 2018 12:57 PM
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Byron K . Jones
Coatesville, PA
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Never a Lockbox, always signage...

Feb 08, 2018 12:12 PM
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Caroline Gerardo
Sun West Mortgage Corporation - Newport Beach, CA
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Was the HOA complaint that it allows gate access????? Fishy

Feb 08, 2018 02:08 PM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

Yes & they make you come to the mgmt office to beg for your property back & the key that puts sellers security at risk. Sometimes they decide to use the sawsall to make sure it is working.

Feb 08, 2018 01:39 PM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
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Jeff Dowler I have not had this happen.

Feb 08, 2018 01:04 PM
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor

I have not had an HOA remove one but they were pretty testie about where it went and they had a limit of 30 days that a lock box or sign could be displayed Jeff Dowler 

Feb 08, 2018 01:03 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

They removed it from a rental I have because they said it violated the positioning rules.

Feb 08, 2018 01:01 PM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
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i never have.  What was their reason?

Feb 08, 2018 12:43 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

No, that has not happened to me.

I imagine that takes much more effort to remove the Surabox than to call the telephone number on the lockbox.

Not sure what I would do should that happen. My first inclination is to have some fun.

 

Feb 08, 2018 12:18 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
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Jeff,

This is a new one.  A

Feb 08, 2018 11:58 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Thankfully I have not had this happen (knock on wood).  I would "go to the mattresses" as they say if they did not promptly return it.  If they had to cut the lock to remove it, I'd grab them by the ear and drag them down to the MLS to buy me a new one.  Well, either that or file a police report and every lawsuit I could find against them.  The ones Fred Griffin mentions and any unfair business practices stuff I could find.  I'd be out for blood and a new lockbox (or two).

Feb 09, 2018 08:26 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Has not happened to me.

Feb 09, 2018 05:49 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Some locally love to cut them off. There was a suit that they have to provide  place to put them. I agree that they do not belong on the front common door, gas meters and main railing. when they dont privide areas, many times a side fence or side rail. I always put my card taped or glued to the rear

Feb 09, 2018 05:15 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
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They cut the friggin thing off - I sent them a bill!

Next is small claims court!

Feb 09, 2018 04:13 AM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
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Mine never was removed/cut out, since I followed their request immediately. HOA often have these ridiculous rules about signs and their sizes, locks location, open house rules. etc.  

Feb 08, 2018 10:45 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
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I have never had an HOA remove a box. Was yours in an unauthorized area?

Feb 08, 2018 10:43 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
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yikes ... condo building or subdivision HOA?   And no I've never had one removed in all my years in business. 

Feb 08, 2018 09:58 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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Jeff Dowler - no. And I do not think this is acceptable.

Feb 08, 2018 09:44 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
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No, never! They would be buying me a new one if they did!

Feb 08, 2018 09:32 PM
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Debbie Laity
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Thankfully that hasn't happened to me. 

Feb 08, 2018 08:08 PM
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Rebecca Gaujot, Realtor®
Lewisburg, WV
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Jeff, I must say I never have. Why would they remove a lockbox without calling an agent beforehand and giving the reason(s) for the removal. Guess that may be asking to much.

Feb 08, 2018 06:57 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
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We have not.

Feb 08, 2018 04:01 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

no

Feb 08, 2018 03:47 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
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I have not had this issue!

Feb 08, 2018 02:53 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
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Never had that happen Jeff but had to take some bolt cutters to one. The battery died! The Board reimbursed me.

Feb 08, 2018 01:09 PM
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Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
305-607-0709 SIB Realty Condos for Sale and Rent

I heard that. In some condominiums - no -no for lockboxes or Supra Box.

Jan 10, 2019 01:51 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Goodness NO, that sure says the HOA has too much power.    

Feb 12, 2018 08:06 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Not a LB but I have had a sign removed and tossed into a dumpster from which I retrieved it. Always a good idea to check with the HOA people re: positioning of signs and LB before running afoul of their rules.

Feb 10, 2018 10:41 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
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Never heard of that before by a HOA.

Feb 09, 2018 03:52 PM
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Anna Banana Kruchten CRS CRB, Phoenix Broker
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Whoa there cowboy!  How on earth did an HOA remove a lockbox from a private home without access to it - unless somebody on staff has a key. This is not sounding good at all.  I've never run across this issue in my area and if I did it would be crossing over the line by a long shot.

Feb 09, 2018 01:56 PM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
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NO ???

Feb 09, 2018 07:20 AM
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Jordan Ayan
The Lifestyle Collection - Scottsdale, AZ
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I live in a neighborhood where lock boxes are not allowed by the HOA, but don't think the HOA would go so far as to remove them.  After all it is private property.  I guess they could fine the owner (seems a bit petty...but having been involved with HOA's, I have seen even pettier things done)..

 

Feb 09, 2018 06:42 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR nailed this one!

Feb 09, 2018 03:52 AM