Special offer
Joe Watson, Home Builder and Seller (Joe Watson, Inc)

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Rainmaker
613,494
Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

If I got an email about referrals that is generatic and sent to a bunch of agents, I would not respond either...

If an agent has a good referral to send, it is sent specifically to me with some info about the buyers needs and the request for a referral fee.

 Eve

Jul 23, 2018 01:01 PM
Rainmaker
1,844,291
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Easy ... they don't believe you actually have a person to refer. We see so much of this BS that we no longer look at it.

NO I DO NOT READ THE OFFER or anything that looks like it. I would like to ask how many people have you referred to the Chicago luxury market in the last 6 months?

Jul 23, 2018 01:55 PM
Rainmaker
1,502,998
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I get several referral partner offers a day.  "50% referral for Vegas buyers" (or Arizona, or San Diego), not to mention all the companies trying to sell leads.  If I don't know you, or your email subject line looks like a sales email, I'm going to delete it.

Jul 23, 2018 01:13 PM
Rainmaker
1,052,211
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Darling darling darling. Your spelling is so bad I would be worried that you were legitimate. I can barely understand what you mean. And I'm not trying to scold you but you need to use spell check.

Jul 23, 2018 02:56 PM
Rainmaker
1,725,996
Sandy Padula & Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Florida Realty Investments - , CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

My guess is the email communication was not pointed directly to the respective agent. Perhaps a friendly phone call would fare better?

Jul 23, 2018 01:10 PM
Ambassador
2,061,792
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Yep.  I agree with most.  If I received a generic email from an agent I don't know, who hadn't taken the time to pick up the @#$%*^ phone in advance to discuss the potential referral... I'm going to assume that they're sending out a spam email to... oh, I don't know... about 4,900 other agents, and that this deserves to find its way to my spam folder.

Mic Drop.

________________
btw.... now that I've had a chance to visit your website, I find that what you've sent is not a "referral"... you've sent a marketing piece for your property.

Jul 23, 2018 04:11 PM
Ambassador
2,178,553
Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Are you sending an "offer" or a "referral"?  As I see it, they are two different things.  Referrals would be met with much more enthusiasm than an "offer" to allow an agent to sell a property you have listed. 

Jul 23, 2018 01:07 PM
Rainmaker
711,852
Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

Joe Watson - I received your note on my blog.  If I have a client who would be interested in your property, I will be sure to send him/her your way.  I just don't have anyone at this time.

Jul 23, 2018 01:00 PM
Rainmaker
5,583,278
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

50??? really???? I wouldn't want to participate in that game....

Jul 23, 2018 03:32 PM
Rainmaker
5,772,575
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Joe,

We work with luxury real estate companies as well as individual clients.  I looked at your website.  I have no idea who you reached out to on Active Rain,  or their particular reasons for not getting back to you.  What you have done is basically exposed the property to 50 agents who may or may not have the right buyer for your property.

This may or may not necessitate an immediate action on their part, as they may be specializing in another type of property. The fact that you as the owner are busy marketing it rather than the agent you hired to represent the property leads one to question this action on your part. It undermines your agent, in my opinion as they should be the ones reaching out.  I would not consider this a referral offer, but that is just how I see it!

Wishing you all the best!

Jul 23, 2018 01:32 PM
Rainmaker
5,104,931
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

 Not sure what you mean by "referral offer." Are you referring bona fide buyers? When I have referrals of any price point, I carefully select a couple of agents to "interview" and speak with them on the phone. Or are you selling a home that you are marketing to agents? That's not a referral.

Jul 23, 2018 01:21 PM
Ambassador
3,043,162
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Your house is for sale. You are marketing your home to agents. Most agents have duties to their own listings. There are only so many working hours in a day. A luxury agent has luxury listings whereby they are under contract to pay attention, market, and work on selling those properties they have already promised to sell with those sellers. 

The other thing  is in Florida, many agents don't require buyer brokerage agreements, this means they don't know if the buyer they refer is going to go around them and then straight to you. What benefit is it to an agent to take that chance? 

We currently don't have buyers looking on the west coast of Florida. The horse people like Wellington:). 

Good luck to you in selling your property. I highly suggest that you list with an agent who will work for the contract they earned with you. 

Jul 23, 2018 10:55 PM
Ambassador
5,049,083
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Most of us, I suspect, get all kinds of spam, and given all the emails we get have to sort through them quickly. If it appears to be spam, it's gone. Why are you not relying on the skills of your KW agent to do the targeted marketing? Unfortunately, while this was mentioned, the bad spelling is a turnoff and so often signals spam. Given the type of home being sold and your goal. it's not as effective as it should or could be. Good luck.

Jul 23, 2018 06:07 PM
Rainmaker
809,258
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

I get so many calls and emails like that I automatically think they are solicitations or spam and ignore them. -Kasey

Jul 23, 2018 03:17 PM
Rainmaker
921,504
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

That's a good question.

One answer is AR is too chatty. What that means is to much messaging about points received, mentions, likes, ect.....so members may IGNORE notification or turn them off. If you use the internal AR messaging this could be the cause.

However, most AR agents DO provide a telephone number. If they don't respond to a phone call quickly, you DON'T want to be working with them anyway.

Then there is the other little thing. Many of the registered members of Active Rain have not been active for YEARS. So, you would be wise to reach out those those who have demonstrable signs of life such as those on the Q&A.

Lastly, emails from unknown senders or questions from ANONYMOUS can not be taken seriously.

Be aware, a referral that is predatory in structure should receive absolute silence as the response. Be aware we receive 13 emails a day PROMISING AAA referrals. 50 sends and no responses suggests a problem with methodology, subject or offer.

Jul 23, 2018 12:57 PM
Rainmaker
4,572,117
Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

I don't find the premise necwcarrisly true.  Sometimes email needs a bit more attention to truly stand out.

Jul 23, 2018 06:48 PM
Rainmaker
5,216,398
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

This approach is like looking for a needle in the hay stack. Most will not have a customer looking in your area at the time of contact.

Jul 23, 2018 02:58 PM
Rainmaker
1,712,676
Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Sounds like spam.;

Jul 23, 2018 02:54 PM
Ambassador
2,684,009
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  The house on Casey Key?  

   Venice is my hometown.  I was a member of Sarasota Association for several years; not at present.

  Shoot me an email; I will read it. 

Jul 23, 2018 01:07 PM
Rainmaker
343,050
Mott Marvin Kornicki
Waterway Realtors® • Notary Public & Apostille - Sunny Isles, FL
Miami Notary & Apostille 786-229-7999

Looks like you have your answer here already. Maybe re-writing or re-wording the offering. Most people/companies that are offering referrals are not real. Most are looking to sell useless leads. When a referral comes from a fellow broker/agent we know how that works.

 

Perhaps the approach used is or borders on shady...

Jul 23, 2018 12:56 PM
Rainmaker
1,209,215
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

Your email this morning looked like spam to me.  

Jul 23, 2018 12:47 PM
Ambassador
6,393,179
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

A huge difference between a referral and a property flyer.

Jul 23, 2018 09:08 PM
Ambassador
5,229,945
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Because they're not really legitimate 'referrals' that you are sending. This type of email is not what we would call a genunine referral - it's you, trying to sell your agent's listing. PERIOD. Nothing more. 

I viewed this as just another agent trying to find that needle in the haystack...and sorry, I don't have that needle or I would have replied.

Jul 23, 2018 07:59 PM
Ambassador
3,345,091
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

My guess is that they think it is spam.  Why not pick up the phone and call. 

Jul 23, 2018 06:59 PM
Rainmaker
3,988,007
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I don't like being contacted through ActiveRain to promote the member's business. Make it personal with a real buyer or seller and then I will listen every time.

Jul 23, 2018 05:35 PM
Rainmaker
2,220,323
Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Good question Joe.  That's the million dollar question!

Jul 23, 2018 03:53 PM
Rainmaker
556,536
Greg Cremia
Shore Realty of the Outer Banks - Nags Head, NC

Why advertise the house as beach front when it is not? The house sits on a flag lot and view from the house is the back of an actual beach front house. Plus, you have to walk across a road to get to the beach. This alone calls into question everthing else you say about the house. Buyers and their agents are smarter than you think.

Jul 24, 2018 04:07 AM
Rainmaker
679,404
Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

I hope you were able to ascertain alot of good advise from all the quality responses.  Above all, we receive hundreds of emails daily that we must go through ... many are spam ... and we have to be very careful not participate in that ... Best Wishes to the sale of your property.  I personally do not have a buyer in this price range.  Wish I did.

Jul 23, 2018 08:02 PM
Rainmaker
7,836,134
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Good luck.

Jul 23, 2018 12:50 PM
Rainmaker
953,617
Pete Xavier
Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA
Outstanding Agent Referrals-Nationwide

Wish you well, but I prefer to pass on "lucrid" deals. 

Jul 24, 2018 12:31 AM
Rainmaker
1,543,662
Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

Not a true statement, I sell luxury and I'd reply...pending your message.

However, you have not clearly stated what you specifically sent. Maybe it looked like spam, maybe what you wrote was not of interest to them. Your question doesn't offer enough info to offer you help.

Jul 23, 2018 08:07 PM
Rainmaker
4,434,127
Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I agree with Carol

Jul 23, 2018 01:43 PM
Rainmaker
758,035
Peter Testa
Nationwide Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

If you don't get a response then you didn't contact enough people. 

Jul 24, 2018 10:15 PM
Rainmaker
1,153,794
Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

It's not the luxury agent that's causing the non-response it's your view of a luxury referral fee that irritates most.

Jul 24, 2018 07:21 AM
Rainmaker
4,882,355
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

If your email has as many capitalized words as your question does I'm not surprised no one answered.

Jul 24, 2018 04:16 AM
Rainmaker
4,319,419
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Joe Watson - people are afraid of the spams! More so for luxury homes!

Jul 23, 2018 09:27 PM
Rainmaker
1,374,323
Joyce Marsh
Joyce Marsh Real Estate LLC - Daytona Beach, FL
Joyce Marsh Homes

I could not locate the property in the mls. I am a member of MFR, please have your agent send me the mls link with all of the data and I will take a look at it. Thank you. 

Jul 30, 2018 01:46 PM
Rainmaker
1,045,440
Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
Making Realty Dreams a Reality #WeWillGetYouHome

When I get generic (Mass emails) that miss the boat as far as making me believe they were something other than just a MASS email.. i.e. generic or stating facts that talk as though they bothered to read about me but clearly haven't I dismiss them... were these the types of offers you sent? 

Jul 29, 2018 04:29 PM
Rainmaker
763,883
Tony Lewis
Summit Real Estate Group - Valencia, CA
Summit Real Estate Group Valencia & Aliso Viejo

Most likely because they are not interested.

Jul 26, 2018 05:12 PM
Rainmaker
5,868,488
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I got one to sell your listings in Florida, which is not in an area I sell.   I am in Colorado.

Jul 26, 2018 09:26 AM
Rainmaker
3,986,258
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Good question

Jul 25, 2018 08:03 PM
Rainmaker
1,622,432
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

It is not about realtors, but an email itself they received. I never answer emails that look like spam=marketing offer. 

Jul 24, 2018 05:16 PM
Rainmaker
4,160,362
John Pusa
Glendale, CA

Hello Joe Watson in my opinion, a spam email will not receive a response. Good luck!

Jul 24, 2018 01:28 PM
Rainmaker
4,800,082
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Maybe they weren't interested in your offer.

Jul 24, 2018 06:41 AM
Rainmaker
3,416,038
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

I guess if it is a real referral, an actual person i am responding immediately. If it is a generic statement like i will send you clients if you send me clients. That may get pushed back as i get those daily. I would rather get to know an agent and be able to put them in my book so when i do have someone. I dont want to be pushed by spam emails

Jul 24, 2018 05:51 AM
Rainmaker
4,272,548
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

That's a real head scratcher Joe.

Jul 23, 2018 09:32 PM
Rainmaker
3,071,489
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Did you send one to us?  If so - I missed it...

Jul 23, 2018 08:59 PM