Will Hamm, "Where There's a Will, There's a Way!" (Hamm Homes)

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Rainmaker
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Bob "RealMan" Timm
Ward County Notary Services - Minot, ND
Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor

I have never cold called on the phone Will Hamm . I establish a relationship prior to calling anyone. If you have established a relationship with someone then the do not call list does not apply.

Oct 23, 2018 12:38 PM
Rainmaker
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Uhmmm...let me think about this one... wouldn't that be against the law?

Oct 23, 2018 12:45 PM
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Fred Griffin, on leave of absence from ActiveRain
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

 I don't break the law. 

Oct 23, 2018 01:09 PM
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Kat Palmiotti
406-270-3667 (MT), 914-419-0270 (NY), Broker in NY with Grand Lux Realty and in MT with (coming soon!) - Kalispell, MT
The House Kat

I do not.

I was on the Do Not Call list at home and it ticked me off to no end that people called my home number with sales calls. In fact, we finally unplugged the phones for that exact reason and we no longer use that number.

I would not do something to someone else that ticks me off when it's done to me. 

Oct 23, 2018 12:49 PM
Rainmaker
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

"Some" get business in all sorts of ways. I report as necessary such people. Other things less bothersome I tend to ignore.  Ahem. . . .

Oct 23, 2018 02:54 PM
Rainmaker
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Nina Hollander
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Charlotte, NC
Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor

I don't break the law and all that business will be worth nothing when he pays an enormous fine one day from someone who complains about his calling. And since when is someone who is on a do not call registry a "lead?" This is a cold call and no where near being a lead.

Oct 23, 2018 02:18 PM
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Guess, some people, Real Estate agents included, will do anything for a dollar, no matter whether it's illegal or unethical.  Ugh, that's reality.

Oct 23, 2018 01:59 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Anything goes but I dont go for anything....Richfuscious

Oct 23, 2018 12:14 PM
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Kathleen Daniels
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
San Jose Homes for Sale-Probate & Trust Specialist

I am a permission marketer.  I do not chase, beg or call people who have not provided their number for me to call them.  I also abide by the laws.  

Oct 23, 2018 05:07 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte Homes for Sale - Charlotte Neighborhoods

My average commission check is $10K. There is no way in ___ that I am going to work as hard as I do to be fined a MINIMUM of $10K for phoning someone on the DNC list.

No how, no way! I work too hard for my money!

Oct 23, 2018 04:59 PM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

No, never did, never will.  Unethical I believe.

Oct 23, 2018 04:06 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I would not do this.  I am surprised people do successfully.

Oct 23, 2018 02:40 PM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
Solutions Real Estate - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

No I don’t. Tere’s the law thing...

Oct 23, 2018 01:52 PM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

My my style....

Oct 23, 2018 01:04 PM
Rainer
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Libby Cousins
Extraordinary Processing - Spokane, WA
Contract Mortgage Processor, licensed in WA

Doesn't that go against what the Do Not Call list is for??

Oct 23, 2018 12:36 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

I have serious doubts about their claim.

Oct 23, 2018 12:27 PM
Rainmaker
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

ONLY if they inquire with me, by email, phone, clicking my site, link, listing, blog etc. Otherwise no way, the risk is too great

Oct 23, 2018 04:56 PM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

No.

Oct 23, 2018 03:24 PM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

The do not call list is a big joke but I adhere to it. I refer to it as the call solicitation list. Most break the rules.

Oct 23, 2018 02:35 PM
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Dave Halpern
Keller Williams Realty Louisville East (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

It's all fun and games until something hits the fan

Oct 23, 2018 02:24 PM
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Peter Testa
Nationwide Homes - Danbury, CT
PETER TESTA

New niche discovered, heard hardly anyone's working in it. I personally wouldn't call anyone I know is on the DNC list. I wish i could say the same for Google Business Plus. They call my cell phone a dozen times a week & I'm on DNC. 

Oct 24, 2018 03:55 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

I don't.  

Those that do call are breaking federal laws.  Serious stuff......

Oct 23, 2018 09:18 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, Keller Williams Fox Cities - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

No I do not, but I am still very opposed to this anti business list that punishes legitimate businesses yet allows every scammer, fake charity and politician to call whoever they please.

Oct 23, 2018 06:29 PM
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR
Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results

Not a chance in you know where

Oct 23, 2018 05:35 PM
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Greg Large
ERA Real Solutions - Grove City, OH
A Tradition of Trust

I do not, but have to wonder who would admit to it in a public forum? Seems it would be inviting the fines associated with violating the DNC list.  Simply not worth the risk.

Oct 23, 2018 03:02 PM
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Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Will Hamm, if it's a "lead", then, they gave you their phone number but if you're subscribing to a service that provides you with phone numbers, then it is your responsibility to check to see if they're on the DNC list. If they are, absolutely not, I would not call them. They're on that list for a reason. I personally do not call anyone, even if they're expired, TOM or in my farm unless they contact me and ask to speak with me first.

Oct 24, 2018 08:00 AM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

That's an easy answer...Nope

Oct 24, 2018 06:08 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Will,

What Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR said, and the other question how do you feel when someone calls you and you are on the "do not call list".  I would not even buy a pack of gum from someone like that...A

Oct 24, 2018 06:00 AM
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Pete Xavier
Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA
Outstanding Agent Referrals-Nationwide

I do, if the leads are directly derived from the interested party (which I do not see why it would not be)...it would not matter if they're on the do-not-call list. Nothing illegal or unethical about it.

In short: Do-Not-Call lists...Do-Not-Matter, if it's a real lead!

Oct 23, 2018 09:55 PM
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Anthony Kirlew
Group 46:10 Network @ eXp Realty - Gilbert, AZ
Helping You Make Fiscally Sound Choices

it's playing with fire. If a broker heard about it, I am sure they would take action, as it is a risk to the business. The fines are huge.

Oct 23, 2018 08:36 PM
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Debbie Reynolds
Platinum Properties - Clarksville, TN
Your Dedicated Clarksville TN Real Estate Agent

I don't cold call, Will. I don't have time for activities like that with possible fines as a result.

Oct 24, 2018 02:04 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I do not.

Oct 24, 2018 08:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I do not.

Oct 24, 2018 06:32 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

Playing with Fire

Oct 24, 2018 04:31 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Really! What kind of response do you expect to this quesiton, Will Hamm

Oct 23, 2018 09:06 PM
Rainmaker
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

What are you calling a lead?

Smart agents will call anyone who has raised their hand in anyway.

Brave and focused agents will call anyone.

Those who say this does not result in business are those who don't do it.

If it didn't work, there would be no robo calling.

Oct 23, 2018 12:35 PM
Rainer
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

How did that lead come to you? 

I think the way the number finds its way to you is your answer. If they initiate the business then I believe you are good. I would potentially even go a step further with a mutual acquaintance gave you the information & number and informed the lead you would be reaching out to them, then you may be borderline there. 

Picking up a phonebook and calling people for business would be a no.

Oct 24, 2018 10:15 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Well, it only takes one time being sued...

Oct 24, 2018 09:06 PM
Rainmaker
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Allie Angeloni
Long Realty - Oro Valley, AZ

Great timing on this question Will Hamm, as it came up this past Tuesday in our Weekly Staff Meeting.  We are not encouraged to use the 'Do Not Call List', and were informed that soon people may get fined for doing so.  It seems in the past, that List was not referred to and folks made calls to anyone.      

Oct 24, 2018 10:22 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I only call those who give me their number.

Oct 29, 2018 11:40 AM
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Joyce Marsh
Regal | Christie's International Real Estate - Orlando, FL
Regional Manager Regal Christie's Int'l Realty

It's illegal.

Oct 28, 2018 06:28 PM
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Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
305-607-0709 SIB Realty

How I would know if they are in DNCL if they contacted me?! :)

Oct 25, 2018 11:27 AM
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
www.SIBRealty.org 305-931-6931

No, I don't

Oct 25, 2018 11:05 AM