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Pete Xavier
Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA
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Skip California (for the most part-always exceptions), better laws and ROI elsewhere for the multi-unit landlord (and yes, multi-unit is the way to go-IMO. I'm more focused on cash-flow than appreciation).

Nov 19, 2020 03:43 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Too many laws negatively impacting the State in general.  I look forward to moving from the Land of OZ. 

Nov 19, 2020 05:04 PM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Here is an article from the Orange County Register that disputes your claim: California’s homeownership rate hits 9-year high

The article also presents an intesting graph that shows that homeownership in California has been between 50% - 60% since 2005.

Nov 19, 2020 04:14 PM
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Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
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Why are laws being renting to help renters and hurt investor/home owners?  Who does that make sense to?

Nov 19, 2020 04:00 PM
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Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

I wouldn't want to own an investment property at a time when governments are changing our way of life, ability to work for a living and making landlords keep tenants that can't pay rent.  It's nuts.

Nov 19, 2020 04:04 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Well there you have it...income property by its nature and risk rewards the buyer/owner with a predictable end result. NOT SO ANYMORE. On a whim, someone legislated a moritorium that hurts lenders/owners and enables renters to live rent free causing owners to hire attorneys for their agreed to rights thus encurring addtional expenses and enlarging the risk. Add further insult, the courts are nearly closed or backlogged leaving remedy in the distance. The three legged footstool of America cannot survive with two legs without failing/falling....

Nov 19, 2020 04:39 PM
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Ray Henson
eXp Realty of California, Inc. (lic. #01878277) - Elk Grove, CA
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Given the direction of CA politics, we are moving our rentals out of state through 1031 exchanges.  It was really lucrative a number of years ago to have investment property.  It can be lucrative now, but the risks are just too high.  

Nov 20, 2020 06:18 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

The more renters there are than landlords the more likely stuff like Prop 13 have of being repealed.  Tenants don't care about stuff like that and either don't care to be educated or try and pass it off as "voter intimidation" when you do educate them about how "If my costs go up, so does your rent."  It will be a while before that happens though.  The state would have to get rent control in place statewide first to try and negate the above argument.  Then of course comes maintenance and such that will not be done to increase the profit margins.  In the end, it's a lose-lose scenario.

Nov 19, 2020 08:28 PM
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Steve Higgins
RE/MAX Kelowna - Kelowna, BC

We have the same problems up here in BC. The renters have more rights to my investment than I do. That being said I think it depends on what kind of tenants you have and the rent you can charge whether it is lucrative or not. We have been lucky with our properties. 

Nov 19, 2020 06:49 PM
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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
St. George Utah Area Residential Sales Agent

No wonder so many people are choosing to leave...The risks far outweigh invester benefits. Look at Pelosi's district...homelessness, drugs and filth are rampant and looks eerily similar to socialist-type leadership. For many, it has become a way of life with ZERO repercussion or accountability!

Nov 19, 2020 06:12 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Tony,

We would not own investment property, been there done that.  I do think that CA has to change its politics as many have pointed out. A

Nov 20, 2020 07:28 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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When? 

Even in the 90s when I did PM in CA, the L/T laws were so coddling to tenants they could run roughshod and burn landlords left and right . . . some made a career of it. Now with Covid, how can landlords imagine they will not be burned by those loopholes and eventually lose or fail to profit on the homes? Then where will the renters live who can't buy?

CA is unrecognizable from the idyllic Magic Kingdom I grew up in. The lawmakers are deranged and delusional . . . CA expats who retain CA politics, keep going past AZ and I heard TX doesn't want them either . . . New Mexico perhaps? Even 'Trad Mexico' likes the wall now! LOL

Nov 20, 2020 07:08 AM
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Brian England
Ambrose Realty Management LLC - Gilbert, AZ
MBA, GRI, REALTOR® Real Estate in East Valley AZ

I would say more lucrative and having someone else paying your mortgage is a great investment.

Nov 20, 2020 03:36 AM
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Raymond E. Camp
Ontario, NY

It has become a landlord's nightmare here as well!

Laws or edicts are being for a handful instead of for the whole!

Nov 20, 2020 04:20 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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The laws in all states are in favor of the renters.

Nov 20, 2020 01:46 AM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street, Suite #5, Topsfield, MA - Topsfield, MA
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It's always supply and demand. BUT I think the population in CA is going down

Nov 20, 2020 10:14 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I have homeowners that have tenants that are not paying their rent, and there is a moratorium on evictions.   Not the perfect time to be a landlord.

Nov 20, 2020 06:05 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

It is a good time to own rental properties.

Nov 20, 2020 07:36 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

It depends on how much rights Landlords have taken from them by the State

Nov 20, 2020 05:47 AM
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Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
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Seems like investment properties never favor the property owner and tenants rarely respect the property or its owner like they should so, I vote less lucrative. 

Nov 20, 2020 04:17 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

It is a roll of the dice. For the riverboat gambler it could be lucrative. For the conservative it may be a pass!

Nov 20, 2020 04:02 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Even here in NH we are getting people from CA looking to relocate. I have had 3 couples in the last 3 months. I just hope they dont vote here like they did there

Nov 20, 2020 11:56 AM