Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Richard Weeks
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I have a new laptop at home and a new desktop at the office.  They both came with Windows 10 pre loaded.  I have not experienced any problems.  The Pros it works fine, no cons so far.

May 17, 2016 06:41 AM
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Kathy Streib
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Fred- I too loved Windows 7 but upgraded to Windows 10 last summer.  I've not found any issues with it.  That said, I use Google Chrome and don't upload anything to the cloud via Windows 10. 

May 17, 2016 06:31 AM
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Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Fred, I'm still using Windows 7, so afraid to make the switch.

May 17, 2016 08:20 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Fred,

With every system, there are pros and cons.  I believe in everyone finding what is best for them. I have  heard very few complaints about Windows 10.  Wishing you great success with your latest and greatest. A

May 17, 2016 06:42 AM
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Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Solutions - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

Sorry, I couldn't resist :) 

Windows

May 17, 2016 06:36 AM
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Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

I have yet to make the switch Fred Griffin , there seem to be a lot of complaints but they may just be from those that hate change!?! 

May 17, 2016 09:54 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

I am happy with Windows 7 and have no desire to switch unless I have no choice. But perhaps some here will convince me it makes sense. I'll talk more with my IT guy and my son-in-law who seems to know everything tech (and who I trust completely!)

May 17, 2016 09:23 AM
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Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Fred - At first, I thought I liked it. Not so much now. You're going to love when you're in the middle of something and it decides right now would be a great time for an update, no choice, and updates can take 20 minutes. It's buggy, and things stop working, and it isn't going to play well with some of your stuff. Make sure you're backing up and can revert to previously working versions of 10 - sometimes that's the only fix. I really miss XP.

May 17, 2016 07:46 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

I cannot help you with this.  I continue to refuse to use Windows 10. My IT guy said there is a way around installing Windows 10 ... but I do not know what the workaround is.

May 17, 2016 07:43 AM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

I will not be upgrading nor will I keep this OS when I buy a new machine

It is intrussive and takes quite a bit of knowledge to remove the intrussive software

Between MS and G trying to follow everything I do they better get with the program because I will NOT be tracked and marketed to do without my consent FIRST!

And for anyone who thinks they are NOT uploading anything to MS watch your network traffic and harddrive light when your machine is idle!

May 17, 2016 10:06 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Fred Griffin I like Windows 10 - and there are so many benefits of Windows 10 - perhaps will need a blog post for that.

I can assure you - the learning curve will not be that high and you'll get used it - soon. 

May 17, 2016 02:48 PM
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Sharon Kowitz
CRS-SRES-ABR-GRI-E-Pro-CREN Fonville Morisey Cary, NC - Cary, NC
Cary, NC Relocation Specialist ~ Buying or Selling

I hate it! It's so different from what I am used to with windows. I had to have my son-in-law (an IT geek) change it back to the normal old system before they completely changed it. I couldn't find documents, it was very confusing. But I'm old and set in my ways!

May 17, 2016 12:10 PM
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Noah Seidenberg
Coldwell Banker - Evanston, IL
Chicagoland and Suburbs (800) 858-7917

I like Windows 7 and see no need to "upgrade" for "Free" to Windows 10. A tech guy told me that sometime in the next 6 months they will come out with Windows 10.1 that you will have to pay for and you have problems if you don't.

May 17, 2016 11:57 AM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

Have one built.  I am sure you can have someone local build you one with 7 installed on it.  

May 17, 2016 10:34 AM
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Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

 Fred Griffin I think it boils down to personality types!   I've had Windows 10 for many months now and have experienced zero problems.  Different does not equal wrong for me.

May 17, 2016 09:38 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Windows 10 has worked fine for me. Again, I am no techie so maybe have not incurred problems of more advanced users!

May 17, 2016 08:24 AM
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Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Fred Griffin I wish I could give you tech advice but that is out of my area of the expertise.  I visit my daughter and fifteen year old grandson frequently for tech advice

May 17, 2016 08:14 AM
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Jim Joeriman
Coldwell Banker Riviera Realty, Inc - Lacey Township, NJ
Helping Agents Reach New Heights

I have had few issues with Windows 10, unlike prior releases.  My biggest challenge is navigating to things I could once easily dim

May 19, 2016 10:02 AM
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Katina Hargrove 352-551-0308
Stake Your Land Realty, Inc. - Eustis, FL
Broker/Owner, GRI,SFR, REALTOR®

Good morning Fred,

My husbands computer upgraded automatically, it took me a while to figure out. Mine keeps wanting to upgrade and I need help as to how to stop it. The message comes on every day. In my opinion it is more difficult to try to find out what does what....

May 18, 2016 10:02 PM
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Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

I had to buy a new laptop on Monday.  The OS is Windows 10.  I have no thoughts.  Sorry.  I'm at the point in life where the laptop needs to do a few things, and if it does, I'm happy.  It seems to run fine for me (knock wood).

May 18, 2016 07:19 AM
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

We are an Apple family, but I've heard Windows users say that 10 is really a fix for the hated 8 and might be closest to the "beloved" 7.

May 18, 2016 05:10 AM
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Jeanne Gregory
RE/MAX Southwest - Sugar Land, TX
The most important home I sell is YOURS!

My IT people told me to wait.  Nuff said.

May 18, 2016 03:23 AM
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Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

My son, IT and cybersecurity, said not to download Windows 10 so I haven't so far.

May 18, 2016 02:52 AM
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Sandy Padula and Norm Padula, JD, GRI
HomeSmart Realty West & Lend Smart Mortgage, Llc. - Carlsbad, CA
Presence, Persistence & Perseverance

I have seen first hand that those who have switched to W10 have experienced select program compatibility problems

 

Good luck!

May 18, 2016 02:10 AM
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Maria Peace
THE BROKER NETWORK OF CENTRAL OREGON, LLC - Bend, OR
MBA, GRI

I have windows 10 on my surface and it works fine as I use it just for internet browsing.  I use Firefox for my browser and like it better than Edge.  It seems great for touch screen, but I am keeping Windows 7 on my laptop and desktop as I have other software that will not currently work with Windows 10.

May 18, 2016 01:57 AM
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Bob Betel
Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc. - Sweetwater, TN
President, Allstar Home Mortgage, Inc

As with every new edition of Windows, there is a learning curve. I just bought a new computer with Windows 10. The screens are different so until I play around with it and get comfortable, I'm still using my older computer with Windows 7. I really don't see the need to upgrade since 7 does everything I need. If you have the installation disk for Windows 7, you need to wipe out the hard drive, then you can install Windows 7. I don't think you can go back from Windows 10 to Windows 7, unless you delete your hard drive

May 17, 2016 11:56 PM
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Pat & Wayne Harriman
Harriman Real Estate, LLC (203) 672-4499 - Wallingford, CT
Broker/Owners, Wallingford CT Real Estate

All the horror stories about upgrading to and using Windows 10 aside, it's perfectly fine and, in many respects, superior to Windows 7 and especialy Windows 8! Eventually you will have to use it because MS will stop supporting previous versions of Windows and you could wake up one day, turn on your laptop and it will tell you:

"Microsoft no longer supports your current version of Windows. For maximum security and performance, you must upgrade to Windows 10 before using this device. Please press "OK" to continue with the upgrade."

Might as well join 'em now, cuz you can't beat 'em! Good luck!

May 17, 2016 11:51 PM
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Richard Bazinet /MBA, CRS, ABR
West USA Realty - Scottsdale, AZ
Phoenix Scottsdale. Sellers, Buyers & Relocations

Hi Fred. Fear no more. I switched to Win 10 on all my devices quite some time ago. Love it, works wonders. Small learning curve, but you won't regret it. I have an old machine with Win 7, and I'll tell ya, it's not as good (anymore).

Like everything else, once you get used to it, you become golden.

And who wants to continue working in the past anyways.... oh, btw, I should mention that I change machines every 2 years, and I think Win 10 works best with a newer machine...

May 17, 2016 11:42 PM
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

All pros. We have changed all of our computers to Windows 10. 

May 17, 2016 11:38 PM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

I know of at least one person who upgraded from 7 to 10 - then went back to 7...

They had the "Geek Squad" at Best Buy handle it for them

May 17, 2016 11:05 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I had to get a new computer in February, so it came with Windows 10. I've had no issues with it. My computer guy tells me most of his clients are happy with 10--- the issues seem to arise mostly when people upgrade their current system, not when they have it on a new computer.

May 17, 2016 10:36 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I still have the older version.

May 17, 2016 09:00 PM
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Robert Smith
Preview Properties, PC - http://www.RealEstateMich.com - Brighton, MI
SRES, Search for Homes Brighton-Howell-SE Michigan

I just upgraded from 7 to 10.  Smooth and easy.  The biggest change so far (day 2) is the new browser, 'Edge'.  You can import bookmarks from IE and Chrome, even.  It takes literally a few seconds longer to boot up.  Time will tell about stability.  I did not have to upgrade any other non-MS applications - a bonus!  BTW, I had decided to upgrade before 7/29/16 to get the 'free' upgrade, anyway.  After that it would have cost me $129.

May 17, 2016 08:27 PM
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Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

It is faster loading than Windows 7, especially if you have a solid state drive. Windows 10 also works well with touch screens. I have had it on my laptop for awhile now without any glitches.

My hubby recently upgraded our desktops from 7 to 10 without incident too. We both use Chrome as our default browser but he said he likes Microsoft Edge (comes with Windows 10) over Internet Explorer.

May 17, 2016 08:24 PM
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Robert May
Robert W May - Lethbridge Real Estate - Lethbridge, AB
Real estate consulting

i have been using windows 10 for about 6 months now.  I dont like it.  I dont like widgets.  I dont like that I cant search for files easily.  I dont like the constant updates and crap I have to turn off.

 

Not since windows 3.11 has windows been a good product.

 

May 17, 2016 05:56 PM
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Debra Leisek
Bay Realty,Inc Homer Alaska - Homer, AK

there are good and bad aspects to Windows 10... on most things it is fine.  I dont like the way photos show now...but I can get around that. Also the edge for the browser has glitches with some programs... I cannot use my MLS on the edge.. I had to install a different browser

it turns everything into apps and I dont like that but it really is overall not bad to work with. If I knew more I think it would work better

May 17, 2016 05:34 PM
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FN LN
Toronto, ON

I have not used it or installed it.

May 17, 2016 05:13 PM
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Diana Zaccaro Broker Associate
Tropical Beachside brokered by eXp - Cocoa Beach, FL
"The Accidental Blogger" Cocoa Beach, Florida

I was forced to 10 when laptop died and I had to buy a new one fast last October.  Most of the horror stories were from people who did the upgrade. The people who bought it preinstalled seemed to have very few problems.

So far, I have only had two issues to deal with...first, it did not like something about my HP printer driver, resolved that and it was fine. Second, there was a conflict with 10 (specifically the Edge brower) and our forms so the techs advised to use IE until those issues could be resolved. I still have not tried Edge...

When it saved things I could never find them again so now I save everything either to the Desktop or Dropbox then move it to where I want it. The settings and apps take time to get used and I am still tweaking them. I either need to buy a dummies book or find someone to show me how to get them where I want them.

 

May 17, 2016 03:40 PM
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Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216,www.JeremiahNewman.com - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Fred, I updated 6 months ago, and it was a nightmare at first. I had to get in touch with Windows support several times before all my bugs were worked out. Some of Apps were not compatible at first. It didn't upload my Office 365 without Window's support help desk. Each time it took a level 3 tech or higher to solve all the problems I was having.

That Canva would freeze up in the beginning until Windows did some type of upgrade.

Now, I can safely say that everything is running smoothly. I have only used some of the features.

May 17, 2016 02:28 PM
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Patricia Kennedy
RLAH Real Estate - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

No clue!  I have  Mac.

May 17, 2016 02:19 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Ten is a dramatic improvement over eight, but not as nice as seven.

Give it a try, you will probably like it.

May 17, 2016 02:13 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I don't know but I have heard of many trying to go back to 8

May 17, 2016 01:56 PM
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Greg Large
ERA Real Solutions - Grove City, OH
A Tradition of Trust

I repeatedly and defiantly rejected every attempt to get me to upgrade, one day, without prompting, my beloved shut down and started installing Windows 10. I think it has less functionality and MUCH longer to find stuff in Explorer. Good thing I was pretty organized with my file saving method before the upgrade. I have a *thing*, as it appears you do Fred Griffin with forced assimilation.

May 17, 2016 01:38 PM
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Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

I use a MAC so I'm no help on this one.

May 17, 2016 11:37 AM
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J.R. Schloemer, CRS
Kentucky Select Properties - Louisville, KY

I was fine with WIN7, then I bought a new system and it had WIN8. I really liked 8 after I found all the cool stuff it could do. Then for some reason I went to 10, I can't remember if by choice or force. Now I keep looking forward to trying a Mac. If you have to have a PC, then I can't think of many options for you other than open it and use it. If you have a choice, maybe do like I am going to do and make a switch. I can't believe I am saying I am going to get a Mac.

May 17, 2016 11:12 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

WINDOW 10 pro and cons

For same reason I switched to EDGE..... Win 10 bye bye.

My EDGE froze only once that was 4 months ago.

May 17, 2016 10:40 AM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I upgraded to Windows 10 about 6 months ago and it almost froze up my computer. I had to remove it and revert back to Windows 8. My Asus brand was the problem adn they had not updated their systems to cooperate with the new 10. I gave it another try about a month ago and it took. I like the format and how clean the sytems are. Files are easier to find and more like the older systems. Some say this operates more like a Mac.

May 17, 2016 10:37 AM
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Susan Laxson CRS
Premier Sotheby's International Realty - Naples, FL
The Michelle Thomas Team

It was a bit tricky at first, but I like it now.

May 17, 2016 10:25 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I partitioned my drive to install 7 because I hated 8.
You can do this Fred Griffin if I can. Trust.

There are a gazongagillion YouTube nerds who can show you the way.

MAKE SURE you download ALLLLLL the drivers FIRST to an external.

May 17, 2016 09:40 AM
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Les & Sarah Oswald
Realty One Group - Eastvale, CA
Broker, Realtor and Investor

Can't help you there. I am still trying to figure out 8.1

May 17, 2016 09:33 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I don't have it yet and hope I never need to change....this is just fine....

May 17, 2016 09:30 AM
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Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

Can't really help but possibly you could do a rollback of some type. Better get on the web with a different computer & find out how before you open that box.

May 17, 2016 09:14 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

The PROs:

1. Stop getting message "Our service no longer works with obsolte systems"

2. You had no plans for that $4,000 anyways.

3. You have reason to show appreciation to that nephew or niece.

Cons:

1. After you get into the system, you don't know what to do

2. When you do it you don't know where it's going to save.

3. if successful you know you never be able to repeat it.

4. Like a new car, you treat it like a baby.

I'm setting up two i7 Surface Books right now.

 

May 17, 2016 07:47 AM
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Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Fred Griffin I've had Windows 10 since day one. I had an issue with the Windows 7 to 10 upgrade and had to do a major repair install. It worked well after that until one day after a Microsoft upload, I couldn't print through my parallel port. After several months, Microsoft fixed the issue. Since then, I haven't had any problems. 

May 17, 2016 07:44 AM
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Val Evans
Scottsdale, AZ

As Mac junkies, we can run both. Even though we have 10 loaded on our machines (why I haven't a clue, hubby takes care of all that) I still use the Mac OS. It just works!

May 17, 2016 07:34 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

It is invasive wanting to mole into everything you do. It offers features that I don't find useful (subjective). Windows 7 still stands out for now. On a positive note, once you get this going and accept it all, it works just like anything else will after you let it.

May 17, 2016 06:49 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager

I'll be watching the replies.  I've been hesitant to upgrade.

May 17, 2016 06:49 AM